Hi John,
My question is about USRP B210, can we use it to set RF bw as 50MHz and
then sample using 2MHz sampling rate?

Thanks
Wahhab

On Dec 29, 2017 11:54 AM, "John Shields" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Wahhab,
>                   As Kyeong had already pointed out, in this
> configuration, the bw limiting factor is the daughtercard. For the SBX the
> bandwidth is 40 MHz. There are other Ettus products covering the same
> frequency range which have wider bandwidth (80,120,160 MHz) but they seem
> to only plug into the X-series of products.
>                     https://www.ettus.com/product/category/Daughterboards
>
>                         Kind Regards,
>
>                                  John
>
> *From:* Wahhab Albazrqaoe <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 30, 2017 4:39 AM
> *To:* Kyeong Su Shin <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* John Shields <[email protected]> ; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [USRP-users] Enable aliasing using USRP
>
> Dear Kyeong,
> Thank you for the reply.
> How about using USRP B210, do you think we can get aliasing by setting the
> RF bw=50MHz and sample at 2MHz?
>
> Thank you.
> Wahhab
>
> On Dec 29, 2017 12:19 AM, "Kyeong Su Shin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Wahhab,
>>
>> If I recall correctly, you can *not* change the bandwidth of SBX (always
>> 40MHz), and the sampling rate of the USRP2 (always 100MS/s). What you are
>> actually setting by setting --rate 2e6 is the decimation ratio. The signals
>> will be always sampled at 100MS/s, and then decimated by the decimator
>> within the FPGA.
>>
>> It is still possible to cause aliasing - one way is to just sample at a
>> fast sampling rate and then decimate by yourself. An other way would be
>> tinkering the digital filters used by the decimator, but I am not sure if
>> there are good APIs to do that. I am pretty sure that rx_samples_to_file is
>> not suitable for the task, though (correct me if I am wrong). That is just
>> an example program.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyeong Su Shin
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Wahhab Albazrqaoe via USRP-users <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>> We would like to create aliasing. This means that we should set ADC to
>>> sample at speed less than Nyquist rate.
>>> In our setting, we target RF front end to be 50MHz and ADC speed is 2MHz.
>>> The question is how to do it? We use some commands (as shown in my
>>> previous email) but seems not working as expected, i.e. RF front end
>>> bandwidth is still 2MHz.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:24 PM, John Shields <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Wahhab,
>>>>                    This is a fairly basic issue – the ‘bandwidth’ (if
>>>> that is really what you are really meaning) is related to the sample_rate
>>>> by The Nyquist  Frequency
>>>>
>>>>                               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>> Nyquist_frequency
>>>>
>>>>                                          Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>                                                   John
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Wahhab Albazrqaoe via USRP-users <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2017 3:04 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* [USRP-users] Enable aliasing using USRP
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> I have question about how to create aliasing using USRP.
>>>> Basically, I have USRP2 with SBX (with recent installations of GnuRadio
>>>> and UHD).
>>>> I would like to set the bandwidth of the RF front end to 50 MHz, and
>>>> use 2MHz of sampling rate (ADC speed).
>>>> I am using the following command:
>>>> sudo ./rx_samples_to_file --args addr=192.168.10.2
>>>> master_clock_rate=50e6 --freq=2460e6 --bw=50e6 --rate 2e6 --gain=50
>>>> --wirefmt sc8 --nsamps 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Problem: it seems to me that the system (GnuRadio/USRP) observes only
>>>> 2MHz of RF front end bandwdith. How do I know this? Ans: I compare such
>>>> settings with the following settings:
>>>> sudo ./rx_samples_to_file --args addr=192.168.10.2
>>>> master_clock_rate=50e6 --freq=2460e6 --bw=50e6 --rate 50e6 --gain=50
>>>> --wirefmt sc8 --nsamps 0
>>>>
>>>> The later setting seems to be actual 50 MHz of Rf front end.
>>>>
>>>> Any comments and advices on how to create aliasing using USRP are
>>>> appreciate.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Wahhab
>>>>
>>>>
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