Hi Robin and Marcus,

Thanks for your hints.

UHD 3.14.1.1 work perfectly fine with my X310s. Only the N310s seem to 
have problems. I use the default HG FPGA image that ships with 3.14.1.1.

For the moment, I use `VERT2450` antennas. The ones you can order from 
Ettus. I transmit/receive @2.484GHz. I mounted antennas on all antenna 
ports. So for the N310s that's a total of 8 antennas per device.
So far I did not specify a `Subdev Spec` in GRC.

I tried a few more options. Also, I unmounted the antennas on the RX2 
ports on the N310s and made sure the `TX/RX` antenna port is configured.

Here are my observations:
1. X310 -> X310 everything works fine TXgain=20, RXgain=10.
2. N310 -> X310 everything works, though I need to raise TXgain=38 a bit.
3. X310 -> N310 works but it seems like sensitivity is still bad. I need 
to raise TXgain=70. RXgain seems to not make a difference at all.
4. N310 -> N310 bad performance but transmission is possible. Need to 
raise gains to almost maximum for bad performance.

This is the N310 setup code generated by GRC. I tried different `Subdev 
Spec`s for both TX and RX. I obtained the best results with `B:0` for TX 
and RX. Though, `best` is still way worse than X310 performance.
uhd.usrp_source(
     ",".join(("addr=X.X.X.214", "")),
     uhd.stream_args(
         cpu_format="fc32",
         args='',
         channels=[],
     ),
)
self.uhd_usrp_source_0.set_subdev_spec('B:0', 0)
self.uhd_usrp_source_0.set_center_freq(tfreq, 0)
self.uhd_usrp_source_0.set_gain(rgain, 0)
self.uhd_usrp_source_0.set_antenna('TX/RX', 0)
self.uhd_usrp_source_0.set_samp_rate(samp_rate)

Since Option 2 N310 -> X310 does yield good results, I assume that the 
N310 RX chain or configuration is the problem. Though, I have no idea 
how to debug that and which knobs to turn.
I tried to observe the spectrum with an N310 via `uhd_fft` from 
`gr-uhd/examples/grc` and it feels like the N310 just doesn't case about 
RXgain settings.

Johannes


On 18.10.19 20:42, Marcus D Leech wrote:
> What antenna are you specifying and which port are you rurally plugged in to.
>
> Are you using offset tuning?  That may be necessary for Narrow signals near 
> the tuned frequency, due to DC offset removal.



On 18.10.19 16:24, Robin Coxe wrote:
> Hi Johannes.  That low response from the N310 sounds fishy.  Have you 
> tried another channel besides 0 on your N310?  It might be that: 1) the 
> TX and RX cables are connected backwards (note that the order on the 
> panel is funky due to layout constraints with the AD9371 RF IC on the 
> daughter cars. 2) signals are actually on the adjacent channel— 
> double-check the UHD subdev mappings listed in the Getting Started Guide 
> because if memory serves they changed at some point— or 3) or the SMA 
> connector center pin connections might be cracked.
> 
> Also, I’m not sure how compatible GR3.8 is with UHD 3.14.1.   Someone 
> who still works on Ettus products mentioned at GRCon that you have to 
> use master-next branches, but those use the new RFNoC, which is still 
> largely uncharted territory with the N310 as far as I can tell.
> 
> -Robin
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* USRP-users <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Johannes Demel via USRP-users <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 18, 2019 4:06 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [USRP-users] N310 sensitivity
> Hi all,
> 
> I figured out how to use our new N310s.
> 
> I ran into the next issue. Let me describe this one briefly.
> 
> With our X310s I set TXgain=20 and RX_gain=10. Both devices are 1-2m
> apart. I observe a really nice RX constellation with gr-gfdm and
> XFDMSync with bursts every 1ms (burst length ~50us). With our N310s I
> set RXgain=60, TXgain=70 and still, the constellation is very noisy.
> My assumption is that some part of the RX chain is not configured
> correctly. But I don't know what the problem is in particular.
> Also, I used an X310 as transmitter and an N310 as receiver. But the
> result is the same, the RX constellation is really noisy.
> 
> Another observation is, that my RX sample stream in a GR time sink does
> show quantization artifacts. i.e. I can see discrete steps which I
> assume are due to low RX sensitivity. The RX value amplitude is around
> 0.0005 for the samples that I get of a USRP source. I assume this should
> be a higher value. With the X310s it was more like 0.1.
> 
> Do I need to take special care when I only use 1 antenna port?
> Is there another AGC setting that I need to configure for N310s?
> 
> Johannes
> 
> Software
> UHD: 3.14.1.1
> GR: 3.8
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