On 2022-10-25 18:15, Brian Padalino wrote:
I have an application where I am using both channels of the TwinRX without using LO sharing.  I am using channel 0 as a single frequency channel, and I am using channel 1 to tune to different frequencies.

I am noticing that some transients happen on channel 0 - the fixed frequency channel - as I am changing channel 1. This happens with even terminated inputs on both channels.  I also notice that if I change the rate at which I am changing channel 1, the spectrum, on average, is much cleaner but the transients stay there from a "max hold" perspective.  So once the LO has settled, things don't seem to be as noisy.

My setup does not install the LO sharing cables, so those MMCX connectors are left floating/open.

My question is if Ettus has seen this or knows about this? As I stated previously, I don't need the LO sharing feature of the TwinRX and I am worried that constantly retuning the PLLs might be causing the noise and distributing it to the fixed frequency channel?  If that is the case, are there some resistors or modifications I might be able to make to the TwinRX that could remove this as a source of noise knowing I never want to perform the LO sharing?  If I didn't connect the MMCX LO sharing ports, am I already removing this as a possible noise source?

Lastly, a thought is that the noise might be coming from digital switching noise to reprogram the LOs.  How feasible is this?

Thanks,
Brian


I wonder if this is a radiative coupling thing?  Like the synthesizer for the other channel briefly sweeps across the stable tuned   frequency on the other channel, and a small amount of energy is bouncing around inside the box and couples to the input.   The TwinRx has an internal heatsink/shield, and I would expect very few instances where that shield is "waveguiding".

It is absolutely the case that with modern electronics with lots of high-speed digital logic, it's nearly impossible to make   all your spurs go away.  This is compounded by the fact that front-ends in receivers have become about 10dB more   sensitive in terms of average noise figure over the last decade or two.   So internal "spurs" that would previously never
  be seen are now showing up well above the noise floor.

My own approach to internal spurs is to make sure the outside-world signal is strong enough to overwhelm them.  This
  isn't always practical, of course.

I have an X310 I can do some experiments with also.  But I won't be able to get to it until end of the week or maybe even
  next week.




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