That was fast! Thanks, Peter, you are a gentleman and a scholar :)
--- In [email protected], "Peter Frost" <peterfrost@...> wrote:
>
> Ban lifted. I think you will need to re-join.
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [USSR-Cars] Re: FW: IFA/Trabant/Wartburg restorations
>
>
>
> Hi Peter, thanks for your comments. No, I would not ban anybody for merely
> vindictive reasons, only if they were spamming or posting offensive material.
> As for forwarding from different groups I've known many many instances of
> that on several groups, and you may have even done it yourself at dome time.
> I meant no offense to anyone, and am man enough to apologize to any members
> of any group who may feel slighted. I joined IFA for the same reason I asked
> Yahoo to let me take over this group, for the love of the cars. I really feel
> that we are a big family even though I don't personally know the members,
> they are all friends in my eyes. If you can get the moderators to put me back
> on I would love keeping up with the happenings, and will not forward anything
> without asking permission. Again I apologize for any infractions, and would
> appreciate if you can put in a good word for me to the group, you seem to be
> a knowledgeable gentleman. Thanks again and have a great evening!
> --- In [email protected], "Peter Frost" <peterfrost@> wrote:
> > any
> > The moderators of the IFA-Club group do read your group, and are interested
> > to see if you will allow this message to be displayed on your group, in its
> > entirety, uncensored, and in a timely manner.
> >
> > The IFA-Club group is primarily for members of the UK based Wartburg
> > Trabant IFA Club, however, currently, we do allow non-members to join the
> > group hoping that we'll get a few of them to pay their subscription and
> > join.
> >
> > Members posting messages on the IFA-Club group should be able to do so
> > without fear that their messages might end up being copied to places they
> > may not be happy with.
> >
> > Some members might, for example, include personal information, such as a
> > phone number, an email address, or details about their car which they share
> > with the members of the group, but may not want to be made available to a
> > wider audience.
> >
> > The issue here is not over sharing, but over taking without consent. This
> > is not only bad manners, but is actually a form of theft, and may also be a
> > breach of copyright.
> >
> > If, for all the postings that you have copied, you had sought permission
> > first, and that permission had been granted there would be no problem.
> >
> > There are other issues too:
> >
> > Anyone who is a member of more than one group quickly gets fed up with a
> > stream of duplicated messages dropping into their in-box. (Anyone who wants
> > the messages from more than one group should be a member of all of those
> > groups, so there should be no need to copy messages between groups anyway.)
> >
> > If you take a message from another group and copy it on to your group, then
> > some one replies on your group, the originator of the message will not get
> > that reply. Where the respondent is a member of both groups it will result
> > in the originator missing a reply that they otherwise would have received,
> > making things worse not better.
> >
> > As for the ban, it was becoming more and more obvious that you had only
> > joined the IFA-Club group to take things for your (adopted) group, and to
> > use it as a platform to solicit for membership of your group. When I posted
> > a message on your group criticising you taking things from our group you
> > obviously were not going to allow it to be published as several later posts
> > from other people were allowed through with no sign of my posting at all.
> > However, I note that you did eventually allow it through, but that was a
> > considerable time after the ban was enforced, and no doubt it wouldn't have
> > appeared without the ban.
> >
> > Your use of the term Nazi was obviously intended to be offensive, and you
> > certainly have not had any "bull" from this moderator.
> >
> > If your group relies on copied material for its existence, then you really
> > should be asking yourself what is the point of it being there at all?
> >
> > As for apologies, if anything, you owe us one for taking things from our
> > group without consent.
> >
> > My expectation now is that you will totally fail to understand this
> > message, and will ban me from your group in a pointless tit-for-tat
> > retaliation.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 3:51 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [USSR-Cars] Re: FW: IFA/Trabant/Wartburg restorations
> >
> >
> >
> > Glad to help, but unfortunately I can't forward any more items of interest,
> > at least from one group. Thought my membership was being screwy yesterday
> > so had to rejoin, then tried again with my hotmail and gmail. All I got was
> > some bull about being banned by some of the moderationazis. I've only
> > posted 2 or 3 times on that group so can't figure what it would be, other
> > than they don't want anybody sharing other groups. If I banned everybody
> > who forwarded car-related items in my groups I'd have no members! Perhaps
> > you can pick up the mantle and share Eastern-related pieces when you find
> > them. If the moderators ever read this group (doubtful) maybe they'll
> > apologize and ask me back. If they don't want their group cross-promoted
> > that's their loss, but I can't even read the messages on it anymore, and as
> > a car nut that's my loss :'( Oh well, anyway I hope all the members know it
> > is fine on here as well as most groups I've been in, to forward anything
> > relevant to Eastern cars, just as the group description says. East German,
> > Polish, Romanian, all Eastern car topics welcome as long as its not spam or
> > offensive. Just be careful how you interact with some of the other groups,
> > they might have some narrow definitions of posting.
> >
> > --- In [email protected], i_lick_slits2001@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks to all who forward these posts, please remember people, not
> > > everyone is a member on every group! Your car or part for sale or wanted
> > > might never move without the help of members forwarding these posts back
> > > and forth!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "TalkTalk" <bobgibbens@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Michael I am interested in your offers tried to ring you but no luck
> > > > yet
> > > > perhaps you could ring me on 07715374636 cheers Bob Gibbens
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Ralph Isenberg
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:12 PM
> > > > Subject: [USSR-Cars] FW: IFA/Trabant/Wartburg restorations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Good projects for someone.......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > From: gribblewok@
> > > > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:05:25 +0000
> > > > Subject: [IFA-club] IFA/Trabant/Wartburg restorations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone fancy taking on some restoration work? I have an IFA F9, and a
> > > > regiment of Trabants including a P70, P50/60's and 601 Kombi and also a
> > > > Wartburg 312. The Kombi is pretty straightforward. The others will
> > > > require
> > > > more time and commitment.
> > > >
> > > > All currently dry stored and most are complete. Oh, and an MZ 150 as
> > > > well.
> > > > Any takers? Thanks, Michael (07944772266)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
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