On 06/07/14 20:41, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> Hmmm, surprisingly the answer to Stephen's question is, essentially no.
> We're now at 60% TLS 1.0-only.

Well, different data sets and all that;-) Ivan's data has
TLS1.2 at 37% in June, but 26% in Jan. But yeah, I'd have
guessed there'd be more of a bump.

S.

PS: Ivan - thanks for your site/data! I think its great.
If I were to ask for something more, I'd say the ability
to see the graphs for how things change over time and/or
the ability to export the data (as a csv or whatever)
would nice additions.


> 
> Thanks,
>     Yaron
> 
> On 07/06/2014 10:35 PM, Ivan Ristić wrote:
>> On 06/07/2014 20:31, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/07/14 20:29, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
>>>> Adding some data to my previous mail:
>>>>
>>>> As of Jan. 2014, 65% of the top 1M Web servers did not speak TLS 1.1 or
>>>> 1.2 [1]. So while we should move implementations to TLS 1.2 (as we
>>>> do in
>>>> this draft), it is probably too early to mandate against the
>>>> fallback to
>>>> TLS 1.0.
>>>
>>> I wonder if that's changed post-heartbleed? I suspect it may well
>>> have but no idea by how much. Anyone know?
>>
>> Monthly stats are available from SSL Pulse:
>>
>>    https://www.trustworthyinternet.org/ssl-pulse/
>>
>> There might be some problems currently when viewing the site in Firefox
>> on Windows. Please use another browser if you can. I'll report the
>> problem.
>>
>> If you'd like to see some stats that are currently not available, let me
>> know. CVE-2014-0224 stats will be available in a couple of days.
>>
>>
>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>      Yaron
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://jve.linuxwall.info/blog/index.php?post/TLS_Survey
>>>>
>>>> On 07/06/2014 10:09 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
>>>>> Hi Trevor, thanks for your review. Please see my comments in line.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/30/2014 09:11 PM, Trevor Freeman wrote:
>>>>>> General Comments.
>>>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section 3.2 still treats SSL 3.0 differently to TLS 1.0. Why is it
>>>>>> ok to
>>>>>> fall back to TLS 1.0 but not SSL 3.0 if both offer the same security?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a good question. I believe the answer is, because much of the
>>>>> server population still only supports TLS 1.0, and if we recommend
>>>>> otherwise, the recommendation will be ignored for (justified)
>>>>> interoperability reasons. But I may be wrong about the prevalence of
>>>>> such servers.
>>>>>
>>>> [...]
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