On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 09:48:53PM -0800, Watson Ladd wrote:
> 
> I want to make sure I understand the big picture of Token Binding and
> why it works the way it does: in particular, it replaces the TLS
> client authentication mechanism with a new one.

It does not replace TLS client authentication.

> I don't see any obvious security problems, and I can see some real
> deployment advantages: certificate privacy is preserved without
> renegotiation, and this works just like cookies for the web app
> developer, assuming there is enough work done by the web server. The
> UI advantage is not trivial.

I do see obvious security problems, but those problems already exist
and this does not make those problems any worse.

> However, what was wrong with OBC which reused existing TLS
> authentication mechanisms? Is this something we can fix in TLS 1.3, or
> not?

IIRC, wanting to leave the existing TLS auth "field" to other
purposes (I don't recall exact reasons, I think those were covered in
some IETF meeting).


Also, on use of ALPN: Stuff like this (combined with some other
proposals) is exactly what I had in mind when I said that using ALPN
for feature negotiation does not scale.


-Ilari

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