You volunteering to talk about this at UTA?

> 5 nov 2014 kl. 17:35 skrev Daniel Kahn Gillmor <[email protected]>:
> 
>> On 11/03/2014 04:16 PM, Leif Johansson wrote:
>> We are currently looking at a pretty thin agenda for Honolulu.
>> 
>> Agenda requests are not like wine: they don't improve with age.
> 
> The TLS WG has been struggling with the "fallback dance" done by major
> browsers (and possibly some other TLS clients.
> 
> The fallback dance represents an attempt to establish a TLS connection
> to a peer that fails to implement the version-negotiated handshake
> properly the first time.  As such, it's not part of the TLS protocol
> itself, but more than one vendor appears to think it's necessary to
> improve connectivity.
> 
> I wonder if that puts the fallback dance in the purview of UTA.  I am
> unaware of any documents that explicitly describe the best practice for
> doing such a thing, or if there are different kinds of fallback
> approaches that different clients might pursue.
> 
> The recent https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-downgrade-scsv-00
> describes a mechanism for use by implementations that perform some sort
> of fallback, without having any document to reference for fallback best
> practices.
> 
> Some questions that come up around fallback:
> 
> * should fallback address only choice of TLS versions (min and max), or
> should it address other features like extensions and ciphersuites?  some
> ciphersuites are not available in some versions, and very old versions
> are extension intolerant
> 
> * should fallback happen one level at a time, or are there arguments
> for falling back all the way to weakest/most-compatible handshakes?
> 
> * how should stateful TLS clients store state about what versions of
> fallback were required to reach any given TLS server?
> 
>    --dkg
> 
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