Hi Orit,

On 11/16/2014 05:44 AM, Orit Levin (LCA) wrote:
> In addition, Section 5 contains the detailed discussion on the
> applicability of this BCP to various application protocols. XMPP is
> an example of an application to rely on the BCP as the baseline and
> specify further clarifications and/or deviations in
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-uta-xmpp-03 . Email
> application (with its various entities and protocols) is the next on
> the UTA agenda. It would be great to see IoT following the same path,
> i.e. using the BCP baseline recommendations, either within or outside
> of UTA.

The problem is only that the communication and usage model of different
application protocols are very different.

Where do you best see this difference? For example, the UTA BCP
completely lacks the discussion about client authentication in TLS. This
is of course not very surprising if you come from an XMPP, Web, Email
world where client authentication happens at the application layer.

When it comes to the recommendations for the use of DTLS let us look at
the DTLS use in SIP. The problem there is that (a) the community that
has experience with DTLS in SIP (and media security in particular) is
not on this list and (b) there is not that much experience with DTLS in
SIP in the first place (at least compared to the experience of using TLS
in XMPP, Email and on the Web). Finally, again related to the
communication model one has to point out that the use of DTLS for SRTP
in SIP is not following the classical client-sever model but rather a
peer-to-peer model (as described in RFC 5763). For the use of DTLS in
WebRTC we can hardly speak about best current practice when we are
currently at the point of "oh it rings".

Ciao
Hannes

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