Has the security area produced any published text describing the general 
benefits of implicit vs. STARTTLS? I can’t exactly reference a discussion on 
IETF/crypto-protocol-security.

There is existing text in the main document (as opposed to the non-normative 
appendix) that favors implicit TLS. If that’s not good enough, can you suggest 
wording improvements?

                Thanks,
                - Chris

On March 13, 2016 at 10:32:03 , Aaron Zauner ([email protected]) wrote:

Hi,  

Excellent to see that there's renewed progress with this (important) document!  

I will be looking over the document again in the next few days a couple of 
times, I've just reviewed the diff and this came to mind:  
Appendix A documents use of port 465 pretty well. It should be noted that 
there's a document that deprecates use of this port, but 
IETF/crypto-protocol-security discussion over the last years has showed clearly 
that in-band upgrade is not the way to go, hence STARTTLS and ports registered 
for it's use should continued to be used, but a paragraph might be added that 
use of port 465 (and thus implicit TLS as opposed to STARTTLS) is preferred. We 
don't get (stripable) in-band upgrade. It should also be noted that - in the 
current state of SMTP deployments at least - this port usually serves 
certificates that are not officially signed by certificate authorities, and 
are, quite often, broken in some sense: wrong/bad common name, strange 
extension fields and sometimes broken character-set induced problems in 
certificates.  

Thanks for working on this again,  
Aaron  
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