Am 30.09.18 um 09:15 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni:
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Hanno Böck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Does that really mean I have to setup thousand+ virtual hosts
>>> https://mta-sts.domain1...1000.example? Or are there other strategies
>>> for hosting provider?
>>
>> This seems to be the one thing that is confusing a lot of people about
>> MTA-STS. The answer is yes you have to, no, there are no other
>> strategies.
>>
>> The policy host is the thing that ties your domain name's identity to
>> your policy. 
> 
> This is one way in which DANE is less onerous.  For a domain with
> signed MX records, the TLSA records are in the provider's zone
> at _25._tcp.the.mxhost.example.  Allowing just one TLSA RRset
> managed by the provider to take care of all the (signed) hosted
> domains.  This works even when the MX hosting provider does not
> control the customer's domain, and is not in a position to
> obtain the requisite certificates.  In that case setting up the
> MTA-STS policy is up to the customer.
> 

Hello,

thanks for clarification.

As a side effect one could enumerate domains supporting MTA-STS just by 
watching the CT logs.

Andreas

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