Dear UTA WG, authors,

A humble shepherd's review of this version of the document. (The
write-up is coming)

Regards,

Renzo


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Introduction:
Doing the shepherd’s write-up I am asked if the document updates any
RFC and if so if this is mentioned in the intro. This document updates
RFC 7925, and this is mentioned on the header, datatracker, and
abstract. However not a single word is mentioned in the Introduction,
shall it mention it again?
“This document updates RFC 7925 with respect to the X.509 certificate
profile and ciphersuite requirements” No problem I guess, the updates
are mostly/all done on section 17 (Certificate Profile). But maybe for
someone looking at the update we can put this pointer on the intro.

Section 10.
“ For RCC … ” :  acronym not defined (Return Routability Check).

Section 17.
Intro, last paragraph. “omits those operational requirements. since”
missing the uppercase after a full stop.

Section 19: Certificate Overhead.
Almost duplicate paragraph in different sections.

“Although the TLS specification does not explicitly prohibit a server
from including trust anchors in the Certificate message - and some
implementations do - trust anchors SHOULD NOT be transmitted in this
way. Trust anchors are intended to be provisioned through out-of-band
mechanisms, and any trust anchor included in the TLS Certificate
message cannot be assumed trustworthy by the client. Including them
therefore serves no functional purpose and unnecessarily consumes
bandwidth.”

And a few paragraphs later:

“Although the TLS specification does not forbid a server from
including trust anchors in the Certificate message, and some
implementations do so, trust anchors SHOULD NOT be transmitted this
way. Trust anchors are meant to be provisioned out of band, and any
trust anchor sent in the Certificate message cannot be relied upon by
the client. Sending it therefore only wastes bandwidth.”

The first one seems more complete. Check continuity with the last two
paragraphs of the section, and erase one accordingly.


22. Post-Quantum Cryptography (PQC) Considerations
Great disclaimer. Is it understood by the reader that the
recommendations/ciphersuites used on this profile are not
quantum-resistant? Maybe add a one liner about this at the beginning
of the opening section paragraph?

Section 24/23? Privacy considerations missing (but this is optional),
nothing interesting to say?  (LDevIDs, subject?)

Refs:
Attention [I-D.ietf-tls-ctls] expired in April 2024 (is informative so
it will be OK I guess…).

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On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 9:01 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-18.txt is now available. It is
> a work item of the Using TLS in Applications (UTA) WG of the IETF.
>
>    Title:   TLS/DTLS 1.3 Profiles for the Internet of Things
>    Authors: Hannes Tschofenig
>             Thomas Fossati
>             Michael Richardson
>    Name:    draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-18.txt
>    Pages:   33
>    Dates:   2026-02-03
>
> Abstract:
>
>    RFC 7925 offers guidance to developers on using TLS/DTLS 1.2 for
>    Internet of Things (IoT) devices with resource constraints.  This
>    document is a companion to RFC 7925, defining TLS/DTLS 1.3 profiles
>    for IoT devices.  Additionally, it updates RFC 7925 with respect to
>    the X.509 certificate profile and ciphersuite requirements.
>
> Discussion Venues
>
>    This note is to be removed before publishing as an RFC.
>
>    Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
>    https://github.com/thomas-fossati/draft-tls13-iot.
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile/
>
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-18.html
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-18
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>
>
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