At Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:06:45 -0700 ,
Von Fugal wrote:
> * Bryan Murdock [Fri,  2 Apr 2004 at 15:30 -0800]
> > All I would do is search google for linux webcam (I see some pages that
> > seem to promise that you can get a webcam to work).  Obviously you have
> > actually tried this out so I'll have to trust you.  As far as printers
> > and scanners yes, you have to pay more than $20 to get one that isn't a
> > dumb box that makes the (windows only) driver do all the real work :) 
> > Linux will have to become pretty prevalant before that situation
> > changes.
> About Linux becoming prevelant before the situation changing, that's just it.
> Linux _needs_ to become more prevelant _before_ the situation will change.
> Too often I've heard that things need to _just work_ in Linux before it can
> become popular when really, in lots of cases, it's just the opposite. Sure,
> there are still things that can be done on the Linux kernel/utilities end to
> make things work, but there's only so much we can do without the vendors making
> some effort to make their stuff work with Linux. That's just not going to
> happen until there's demand. It's like inductors, change is resisted, but once
> the di/dt gets going, we may see some interesting stuff.
> /me crosses his fingers
> There is hope, for we see that nvidia and others have responded to the still
> limited demand Linux users offer.

This is pretty much the point I've been trying to make.  You can bet
that if Dell and HP committed to selling PC's with Linux pre-loaded
that they would lean their considerable weight on any hardware vendors
to get Linux support, and they would get it.  And if you doubt they've
got some weight to throw around, just the fact that they sell any
desktop with Linux pre-installed shows they can lean on Microsoft, let
alone some pitiful little webcam company.

Bryan

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