Tell them to take Computers in the Humanities (Chum) 287 and 387. Though it is 
in Visual Basic, they are pretty decent programming classes. I only took Chum 
387 and I thought that it was easier than CS 142.

I took Chum 387 from Jason Dzubak, and he taught me more about design and UML 
than any of my CS courses.

http://chum.byu.edu/pages/course.html

Richard Esplin

On Thursday 04 November 2004 12:08, Ross Werner wrote:
<snip>
> Maybe some of you feel that that's how it *should* be--if you can't learn
> the material on your own, you don't belong in the CS department--and I
> won't argue with you even if I don't necessarily agree with you--but there
> are plenty of people in other departments like Soren described who want to
> learn a little bit of programming skills. When people ask me, "I just want
> to learn how to program ... what class should I take?" I answer, "Don't
> take a class from BYU," because in my opinion there aren't any classes
> being offered for that sort of person.
>
<snip>

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