I hate being with the majority of you, but still, I'm moved to express my opinion (given that it (my opinion) is has the power to sway the masses.)
Ok, the banning thing -- what's up with that? Pretty lame. I don't think tuxgirl would have banned what-his-face. Vote for tuxgirl! seriously. mrb > I also disagree, and I call upon the UUG officers to > a) make an official apology on-list and to Michael. > b) establish a few policies with regards to list removal > > While normally against top-posting and not-trimming, I leave all this > in for Michael benefit. > > Grant > > On Mar 25, 2005, at 2:01 PM, jb wrote: > >> For the record, and in place of a discourse on the topic, I too >> disagree with the ban. >> >> --jeremy >> >> >> >> Josh Coates wrote: >> >>>> I could give a rat's ass what your intention is. >>>> >>> >>> i assume this is the "swearing" michael did. >>> >>> so in honor of michaels passing from the list, i will quote a verse >>> from the >>> king james version of the bible: >>> >>> Exodus 23:5 >>> "If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, >>> and >>> wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him." >>> >>> aw crud. am i going to get kick-banned too now..? ;-) >>> >>> btw - for the record, almost to a point do i disagree with michael's >>> intellectual arguments in his post, but i respect the thoughtful >>> expression >>> of his opinion. i have to say that the kick/ban was way out of line. >>> >>> just my $.02 >>> >>> Josh Coates >>> www.jcoates.org >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart Jansen Sent: >>> Friday, March 25, 2005 11:27 AM >>> To: BYU Unix Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [uug] Kick-banned / last request (fwd) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:06 +0000, Jason Holt wrote: >>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:44:41 -0600 >>>> From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> [...] >>>> Subject: Kick-banned / last request >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:13:39AM -0700, Erin Sharmahd wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the request of the uug-officers, you have been removed and >>>>> banned from uug-list for swearing in this email. >>>>> >>> >>> Exsqueeze me?! >>> >>> I know we joke about this being a dictatorship, but that was an >>> inappropriate decision. Micheal was a long time contributor with many >>> interesting and useful things to say. Even if he hadn't been, a >>> warning >>> of some type would have been more appropriate than banning him >>> without consulting the group. His language may have pushed the >>> envelope for a BYU setting, but I've heard it uttered on campus and >>> the person wasn't stoned or run off. >>> >>> I think it's time we had official policy on list subscriptions and >>> dealing with problems. Autocratic banning just isn't appropriate, >>> especially for such a minor offense. >>> >>> -- >>> Stuart Jansen e-mail/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> "XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't >>> using enough of it." - Chris Maden >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------- >>> BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ >>> The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of >>> their author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or >>> BYU-UUG. >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------- >> BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ >> The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their >> author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or >> BYU-UUG. >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list > > > -------------------- > BYU Unix Users Group > http://uug.byu.edu/ > > The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their > author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-UUG. > ___________________________________________________________________ > List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list -------------------- BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-UUG. ___________________________________________________________________ List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list
