* Alberto Treviño [Mon, 6 Aug 2007 at 15:11 -0600] <quote> > On Monday 06 August 2007 11:38:49 am Brent Thomson wrote: > > Keep in mind that 100% binary compatibility doesn't equate to 100% of > > a useful solution. While nobody on this list would have any trouble > > with these format, the average Linux user is getting less technical, > > not more. Part of a 100% solution has to be the ease of installation, > > a friendly UI, and a certain amount of abstraction of the more > > advanced capabilities for the new average users. <snip/> Guess why the average linux user is getting less technichal. Could it be because linux is getting easier to use? Packages easier to install? Generally easier to accomplish those very things you insist are so difficult? Like noted below, using proprietary junk only makes the linux experience WORSE, not better.
> The best way to do something in Linux is to do it the Unix way. Using a > tool designed for Windows, later hacked to work on x86 Linux and bolted > to a graphical browser is not the Unix way. One of the biggest > advantages of using Open codecs is that those with technical skills can > later use these files as they please. That's the power of Unix: the > more tools that can communicate the more powerful the system. Flash > doesn't talk to any other applications. It just does its own thing in > its own little bubble, like any other good Windows application. Here here, lets go the unix way. Even more important than programs working together is the reason they can work together, by using open formats. The mindless masses are already taken care of, and we're given an opportunity here to request the _best_ solution, not the most popular. I say we go with ogg/vorbis/speex and other Open and Free formats all the way. Let's do the right thing, not the popular thing. That is what the church is about, no? Be in the world, but not of it. > Let's think of a realistic scenario somewhere in the 3rd world. Maybe a > guy has an old laptop. He takes it to work where there is fast > internet connection and downloads the conference video or audio in his > language. Then he goes home and watches/listens to it on his laptop at > home with his family where he doesn't have an internet connection. How > is he supposed to do that with Flash? You would have to download extra > browser tools, converters, and other junk to get that to work. That > seems to contradict the ease-of-installation and ease-of-use you are > trying to promote. Or he could even set up some local mirror, maybe for his community or school. The possibilities are endless. With flash/realplayer, not so much so. Von Fugal
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