To throw my two-bits in the debate -- here's how the Information System
department handles jobs.
https://island.byu.edu/jobs/118

Any student or alumni can post jobs as well as recruiters who request the
recruiter login info. New jobs are posted in a block on the front page.
Those interested in receiving notices about new jobs can sign up for email
notices or subscribe to the RSS feed.

I don't mind having job postings on the UUG website but flash = ugly and I
like the job posting process to be transparent that anyone who wants to post
jobs can.


Kyle

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 22:11 -0500, Peter McNabb wrote:
> > One of the intentions of putting up the ads is that they are job
> > postings. They map 1:1 with real jobs that members of the UUG (many of
> > whom are in college and looking for future jobs) may be interested in
> > applying for.
>
> There are already many more useful resources BYU students can turn to to
> find jobs. If all you want is a generic job or a generic employee, why
> not just go to a job fair, visit Monster.com, or apply for an
> internship?
>
> What can the UUG do well that others can't? How about a single link to a
> page explaining to employers how to post jobs to the list. Prepare
> employers by describing the audience and culture of the UUG. If they
> want to try their luck posting ASP.Net jobs, let them. Maybe they're
> looking for people able to help them move to Mono on FreeBSD. By taking
> the time to target the message, they make themselves much more
> interesting than a tacky flash ad blindly broadcast to every Web site
> that'll have them.
>
> > We have the ability to select what types of jobs appear. If people are
> > extremely against showing a job for a java programmer, it's possible
> > to not list "java" jobs. The hosting company is relatively new and is
> > still making connections with potential employers.
>
> So it's tacky _and_ not very useful? Sweet!
>
> > As they continue to develop, we'll have more control over appearance
> > of job postings for better integration to the UUG site. I'm not
> > certain, but it may be possible to use plain html in place of flash.
>
> It had better be. I don't want tiny, ugly flash ads forced on people
> that aren't interested. I want a full dedicated page I can search and
> filter. It's fine to put a link on the front page that interested
> members can follow to a dedicated page. But a vertical flash banner on
> the home page just makes the UUG look pathetic.
>
> The UUG Web site isn't a personal site, it isn't a startup, and it isn't
> some toy project by a high school graduate. It's a .edu or .org, not
> a .com
>
> > The club has not collected any money, and we still need to determine
> > if we even want to do that. Something to consider is directly donating
> > any generated revenue to an organization of our choice. Why not donate
> > to the FSF as another way of showing our support for free software?
> > (https://www.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom)
>
> I could get behind that, but not as it was implemented with an ugly
> flash ad on the home page. The UUG should be providing resources to
> members. Maybe that includes helping members prepare for and find
> internships and employment after graduation. But I think we can better
> accomplish that with education than ads.
>
> The UUG shouldn't be helping some brand new company test its slow
> loading, tacky flash ad. No matter how many check boxes we can click to
> help them market to us.
>
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