although vms are a good solution for some problems
I can personally report more businesses (retail, hospitals!) 
still using windows xp on standalone pcs than I can count
on my fingers and toes -- not that they should be, but lets assume
for some reason out of their control they are stuck with it

there are a lot more situations where standalone systems are the norm

ast and uwin came about because of a need for portability on existing plant,
the need for a reliable, familiar and reproducable way to monitor and control 
the plant,
and the need for a pathway to preserve parts of the environment when the plant 
eventually changes

re research

although uwin and ast are visible parts of att research
it does not represent all of the work dgk and I are involved with

they are part of a toolbag that lets us quickly gain traction
in legacy and new projects, and quickly design, test and propagate new 
algorithms,
usually engineered inside familiar apis

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:32:22 -0400 [email protected] wrote:
> Isn't that kind of the point Irek? You're remembering the 80's and this
> isn't the 80's. You can do all the same stuff in a VM without the problems
> using a host of programs fit for purpose. Don't tell me that you're
> putting this in production for big companies, you'd get laughed out on
> peer review.

> Research for research's sake is fun, sure, but that's all it is.
> Doesn't AT&T Research have something better for these really smart people
> to work on?

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