* Roberto De Ioris <[email protected]> [2013-03-27 15:57]:
>
>> * Roberto De Ioris 
>> <[email protected]> [2013-03-27
>> 15:26]:
>>>
>>>> * Roberto De Ioris
>>>> <roberto-5kdoxzqkugi-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2ibg-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org>
>>>> [2013-03-27
>>>> 14:09]:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could the new balcklist/whitelist options be used as an
>>>>>> alternative to tyrant mode? I'm thinking of running the emperor
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [uwsgi]
>>>>>> uid = uwsgi
>>>>>> gid = uwsgi
>>>>>> umask = 022
>>>>>> pidfile = /var/run/uwsgi/uwsgi.pid
>>>>>> daemonize = /var/log/uwsgi.log
>>>>>> log-date = true
>>>>>> emperor = /etc/uwsgi.d
>>>>>> cap = setgid,setuid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and then create for each user a root-owned file
>>>>>> /etc/uwsgi.d/user-<username>.ini which only includes a user-owned
>>>>>> file:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [uwsgi]
>>>>>> uid = <username>
>>>>>> gid = <username>
>>>>>> blacklist = uid gid
>>>>>> ini = /home/<username>/uwgsi.ini
>>>>>> end-blacklist =
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would that be secure or am I overlooking any way for the user
>>>>>> configuration to circumvent uid/gid?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Guido Berhoerster
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a user could load a "malicious" plugin hooking itself just before
>>>>> privileges drop, so you should disallow "plugin/plugins" too.
>>>>>
>>>>> From a security point of view it is not a good approach, as we could
>>>>> add
>>>>> new options (or aliaes) you could overlook (and that should be
>>>>> blacklisted) and so on.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I guess it is a suboptimal approach, I could use a whitelist
>>>> instead but maintaining that would be tedious and difficult to
>>>> get right.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reason to not want tyrant mode ? I suppose managing file
>>>>> permissions
>>>>> of vassal's file is the problem...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I would prefer if it were more explicit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> i understand the problem (expecially when you copy the vassals to remote
>>> nodes). What about using alternative storages for configs ? For example
>>> storing in postgresql is an handy way (at least for me).
>>
>> That would be overkill in my case and it's not a huge problem.
>> Thinking about it, would it be possible to determine file
>> ownership in tyrant mode through lstat rather than stat? I
>> suppose that would allow something like using
>> --emperor='/home/*/uwsgi.ini' --emperor-tyrant safely? Currently
>> it is a bit ugly that one has to create a root-owned container
>> directory somewhere for vassal configuration files since one
>> usually does not want user-owned files in /etc.
>> --
>> Guido Berhoerster
>
>
> Yes, i think --emperor-tyrant-use-symlink/--emperor-tyrant-lstat would be
> a good option to have

Mabye --emperor-tyrant-nofollow?

-- 
Guido Berhoerster
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