On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:28 PM ClearScript Developers <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm, we implemented your suggestion and so far have NOT encountered any
> issues on 10.7. We had definitely tried the same thing on 10.6 and
> encountered crashes, but we may have misinterpreted our results.
>
> Interestingly, there does appear to be code
> <https://github.com/v8/v8/blob/28f763b5949d053c62e95db2f997a9f13b2e3065/src/heap/cppgc/sweeper.cc#L462>
> that dereferences the return value without checking for nullptr, but it
> could be a red herring.
>

That's in cppgc code, which in my understanding isn't directly used by V8
(in Chromium it implements the garbage collector used for objects on the Oilpan
heap
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/v8/v8/+/main/include/cppgc/README.md>).


> In any case, since we can't repro any crashes at the moment, please feel
> free to ignore this question. Sorry about that!
>
> BTW, the change you linked reads "All embedders override this method now,
> so it can be abstract." Question: To whom does "all embedders" refer? :)
>

I suspect this was shorthand for "chromium, node, and d8" which are the
ones tested in our CI. Please don't take any offense, we know there are
many more embedders than those :)

But thanks for raising this thread, some documentation on that method is a
good idea.


> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:36:13 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> From git blame, it looks like this change was simply meant as a cleanup
>> in https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/v8/v8/+/3780538, where
>> the previous default implementation simply returned nullptr. So at first
>> glance it looks like having your platform return nullptr ought to work.
>> Adding the CL author & reviewer to this thread for confirmation.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 6:54 AM ClearScript Developers <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> We got no response to this on the v8-users group, so we thought we'd try
>>> here.
>>>
>>> "Our embedder has a custom v8::Platform implementation. In V8 10.6+,
>>> v8::Platform::GetPageAllocator is abstract, and no information is provided
>>> about how to implement it.
>>>
>>> We're currently delegating GetPageAllocator to an instance of the
>>> default platform (created via v8::platform::NewDefaultPlatform). That seems
>>> to work but feels hacky. Before this we never had any reason to instantiate
>>> the default platform.
>>>
>>> Is this an oversight? Most v8::Platform methods are relatively mundane –
>>> task scheduling, raw memory allocation, etc. – whereas v8::PageAllocator is
>>> quite esoteric, and many embedders would probably not know how to implement
>>> it."
>>>
>>> Since that original post, we've run into a problem with the default
>>> platform (a deadlock at process shutdown on Windows 7 if the default
>>> platform is owned by a static object), so we're now patching V8 to expose
>>> v8::base::PageAllocator instead.
>>>
>>> Any comments or recommendations from the V8 team?
>>>
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