Looks like the hello_world example now requires the rust rlibs to be 
included when linking if v8_enable_temporal_support is set to true so that 
answers that question.

I was able to track down why 13.8 (13.8.258.2) doesn't build successfully 
when using gcc/libstdc++ but I don't understand what exactly is causing the 
issue.

Originally when I attempted to build 13.8 (13.8.258.2) with gcc/libstdc++, 
the *mksnapshot* target would fail during linking with:
undefined reference to `rust_allocator_internal::alloc_error_handler_impl()'

If I manually edit the generated 
out.gn/x64.release.sample/obj/mksnapshot.ninja and add 
obj/build/rust/allocator/liballoc_error_handler_impl.a to the rlibs 
section, the build succeeds and I can compile and link the hello_world 
example to v8 as well.

My confusion is due to the fact the generated mksnapshot.ninja (for both 
gcc/libstdc++ and clang/libcxx) contains 
obj/build/rust/allocator/liballoc_error_handler_impl.a within:
build ./mksnapshot: link obj/mksnapshot/builtins-effects-dummy.o
<...>
obj/build/rust/allocator/liballoc_error_handler_impl.a
<...>

yet gcc/libstdc++ fails during linking without the manual rlib edit to 
mksnapshot.ninja.
On Friday, June 6, 2025 at 5:45:49 AM UTC-4 Jakob Kummerow wrote:

> The build system does not care about directory names, only GN args matter.
>
> Using the same standard library is probably much more important than using 
> the same compiler; but if it ever happens that using Clang fixes an issue 
> that occurs when using GCC, then that's our recommended solution.
>
> The temporal_rs stuff is pretty new, `gclient sync` should download what 
> you need at the version you need it.
>
> And yes, someone should update the embedding guide again... I'd hope it's 
> enough to simply replace the compiler binary name on the command line.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 10:17 PM Jay Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the info.  My copy/paste of the gn config from the post I 
>> referenced into the  x64.*release *directory somehow made me blind to 
>> the fact is_debug was set to true.
>>
>> I also didn't realize we would have to compile the rest of our app with 
>> clang if we were linking to the static v8 libs.  Maybe that explains why I 
>> was getting the original link error when trying to build the hello_world 
>> example using g++:
>> ld.lld: error: undefined symbol: v8::platform::NewDefaultPlatform(int, 
>> v8::platform::IdleTaskSupport, v8::platform::InProcessStackDumping, 
>> std::unique_ptr<v8::TracingController, 
>> std::default_delete<v8::TracingController>>, v8::platform::PriorityMode)
>> >>> referenced by hello-world.cc
>> >>>               /tmp/hello-world-901944.o:(main)
>>
>> Using the following config:
>> dcheck_always_on = false
>> is_component_build = false
>> is_debug = false
>> target_cpu = "x64"
>> v8_monolithic = true
>> v8_use_external_startup_data = false
>>
>> I am able to build 13.8 (13.8.258.2) successfully and, if I use clang and 
>> the custom libcxx library, I can almost build the hello_world example; 
>> seems I missing this temporal_rs lib somehow:
>> ld.lld: error: undefined symbol: temporal_rs_Instant_epoch_milliseconds
>> >>> referenced by js-date-time-format.cc
>> >>>               js-date-time-format.o:(v8::internal::(anonymous 
>> namespace)::HandleDateTimeTemporalInstant(v8::internal::Isolate*, 
>> icu_74::SimpleDateFormat const&, 
>> v8::internal::DirectHandle<v8::internal::JSTemporalInstant>, char const*)) 
>> in archive out.gn/x64.release.sample/obj/libv8_monolith.a
>>
>> If I add v8_enable_temporal_support = false  to the config and rebuild, 
>> then the hello_world example builds/runs successfully and is 49 MB (vs. 3.3 
>> GB) :)
>>
>> The embedding guide <https://v8.dev/docs/embed> still uses g++, could 
>> you provide the correct way to build the example with clang as I'm curious 
>> why this temporal_rs is an issue when linking?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> On Thursday, June 5, 2025 at 6:27:39 AM UTC-4 Jakob Kummerow wrote:
>>
>>> The binary size is caused by `is_debug = true`. That configuration is 
>>> very useful for debugging, but is both slow and large. For release-mode 
>>> binaries, set `is_debug = false`.
>>>
>>> Regarding `is_clang` and `use_custom_libcxx`: Drop them both to get the 
>>> configuration we test and support. You will then also need to compile the 
>>> rest of your application with clang and libstdc++, which is an obstacle for 
>>> some projects. Alternatively, you can continue to use g++ and libc++ and 
>>> hope that it works, or debug/fix it when it doesn't. We'd probably even 
>>> accept reasonably non-intrusive patches for upstreaming.
>>>
>>> Remember to run `gclient sync` after checking out a different git 
>>> commit. (I'm not sure whether that explains your 13.8 difficulties.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 8:06 PM Jay Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> We are experimenting with building v8 for embedding within our c++ 
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>> Following the guidance - https://v8.dev/docs/embed, it seems the doc 
>>>> is for 13.1.  When I try to builder newer code using the 
>>>> *x64.release.sample* config, the build fails very quickly:
>>>> ../../src/base/vector.h:296:32: error: no member named 
>>>> 'make_unique_for_overwrite' in namespace 'std'
>>>>
>>>> I then discovered this issue - 
>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/377222400 which speaks to the fact 
>>>> the doc might be out of date.
>>>>
>>>> Using the suggested config from the linked issue above:
>>>>
>>>> target_cpu = "x64"
>>>> target_os = "linux"
>>>> is_debug = true
>>>> is_component_build = false
>>>> v8_monolithic = true
>>>> v8_static_library = false
>>>> v8_use_external_startup_data = false
>>>> use_custom_libcxx = false
>>>> is_clang = false
>>>> treat_warnings_as_errors = false
>>>>
>>>> $ ninja -v -C out.gn/x64.release v8_monolith
>>>>
>>>> $ g++ -I. -Iinclude samples/hello-world.cc -o hello_world -fno-rtti 
>>>> -fuse-ld=lld -lv8_monolith -lv8_libbase -lv8_libplatform 
>>>> -Lout.gn/x64.release/obj/ -pthread -std=c++20 -DV8_COMPRESS_POINTERS 
>>>> -DV8_ENABLE_SANDBOX
>>>>
>>>> I was able to compile 13.7 (13.7.152.8) on ubuntu 24.04 and link the 
>>>> hello world example to the v8 static libs however I noticed the 
>>>> hello_world 
>>>> executable (which did run successfully) was a whopping 3.3 GB?
>>>>
>>>> Trying to build 13.8 (13.8.258.2) using the same config fails to build 
>>>> successfully:
>>>> FAILED: mksnapshot
>>>> "python3" "../../build/toolchain/gcc_link_wrapper.py" 
>>>> --output="./mksnapshot" -- g++ -pie -Wl,--fatal-warnings -Wl,--build-id 
>>>> -fPIC -Wl,-z,noexecstack -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-z,now -m64 -Wl,-z,defs 
>>>> -Wl,--as-needed --sysroot=../../build/linux/debian_bullseye_amd64-sysroot 
>>>> -rdynamic -pie -Wl,--disable-new-dtags -Wl,--gc-sections -o "./mksnapshot" 
>>>> -Wl,--start-group @"./mksnapshot.rsp" -Wl,--end-group   -latomic -ldl 
>>>> -lpthread -lrt -Wl,--start-group 
>>>> <<<truncated for brevity>>>
>>>> /usr/bin/ld: 
>>>> obj/build/rust/allocator/libbuild_srust_sallocator_callocator.rlib(libbuild_srust_sallocator_callocator.build_srust_sallocator_callocator.ff715ce24295f21e-cgu.0.rcgu.o):
>>>>  
>>>> in function `__rustc::__rust_alloc_error_handler':
>>>> ./../../build/rust/allocator/lib.rs:106:(.text._RNvCsiiodXzYB6cW_7___rustc26___rust_alloc_error_handler+0x10):
>>>>  
>>>> undefined reference to 
>>>> `rust_allocator_internal::alloc_error_handler_impl()'
>>>> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>>>> ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
>>>>
>>>> Currently some of the gn config args used that enables v8 (v13.7) to 
>>>> build and link the example successfully are doc'd as deprecated:
>>>> use_custom_libcxx = false
>>>> is_clang = false
>>>>
>>>> I've read other posts that mention clang is the only compiler supported 
>>>> moving forward which furthers my belief I'm using an incorrect build 
>>>> configuration.
>>>>
>>>> My question is what is the correct gn config one should use to build 
>>>> the latest (13.8) v8 code and be able to link the hello world example 
>>>> successfully?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions/guidance!
>>>>
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>>>>
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