Inside Design, I do take responsibility for my words. In my view, the Wilsonart trailer was clean and avoided the sad fate of "cute-ing up" and "dumbing down" of most contemporary design, but I found it way heavy on the laminates and not enough contrast of textures and materials. It was a breath of fresh air and helped turn the tide of trailer design toward younger and more sophisticated buyers. It is unfortunate that I've never yet had the chance to get inside and see the flow for myself. It; however, seems colder than the utility/surplus model I'm talking about. Design is put out there and made to be compared. You aren't dumb, and I make the point of the funds lavished on these follies. As for "elitist", they are showcase examples like the Wilsonart trailer and I'm willing to bet I could produce something as nice with a reasonable budget. They are charity write offs and much of the cost is in appointments and accessories that no other trailer comes with. I certainly was an oaf to slam your trailer design and could have made my point without comparing with "way cooler". That's why I'm apologizing on net instead of off. The Airstream was never really meant for the masses. It is something of an elitist object, in itself. The prices at the time were pretty high. They had great fabrics and appliances and were made way better than the mass market trailers of the time. That's why the recent Safari and Bambi models have gotten knocked by list members, they had cheap looking laminates and trim. And, Inside Design, I repeat..... "for the same amount of money, you can make an ugly trailer or a beautiful one" You did a fine job, I thing the "utility/surplus" (what does THAT mean, anyway?) trailer takes interiors a step further in the direction I'd like to see them go. Note my slam of the other three where nothing exceeds like excess! And I'm only a set designer anyhow. When I do remodel an empty sixties model or an empty (I wish) 2002 bambi, I welcome your criticism. Tom Walden inside design wrote: > > "way cooler than the Wilsonart trailer" ouch !!! > > i think the key words in your observation are- > "very free with the funds" > > these are the kind of "elitist" design solutions that > we try to avoid. yes - you might like the designs. > but - are you going to pay 150,000 for one of these > trailers ?? and at this point - it looks like only four > people will have the chance to do so. the > Wilsonart trailer is only one version of MANY > new design ideas that have been generated over > the past two years through Inside Design. these > new ideas are meant to be for the masses. > > so - what does one do with new design ideas ? > try to get them to the masses ? > or create a "limited" number and sell them to a selected few ? > > we are still gonna fight to create a product that is available to > the masses - maybe we are the dumb ones. > > take care, inside design > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:58 PM > Subject: [VAC] Re: Genuine Ralph Lauren designed Airstreams > > > I'm not sure what problem this posting made for Joy, but I was pleased > > as hell to get the pictures and the connection. Perhaps my computer or > > browser was more able to handle the way the information was presented > > and the listing of the underlined address would have been a better way > > of sending the information. > > I'm sure solution to the problem with the submission will be another > > lesson for us all in how we present something to the list so it don't > > scramble our friends programs. > > > > I hate it when something screws up my computer or corrupts my browser, > > and I am in sympathy with Joy's predicament; but I am excited by the > > "utility/surplus" airstream shown -- it is closer to what I've been > > thinking Airstream should be making today than the "dumb down to the > > lowest bland denominator of taste" designs they've been putting out > > lately. This is what I've been preaching made manifest in stainless, > > aluminum, wood and laminates. Should be able to replicate those designs > > at normal airstream prices. Really want to step inside and check them > > out for myself, in person. > > > > I'm not easily impressed, by other designer's work. These are way > > cooler than the all formica version for Wilsonart. (I understand the use > > of the sponsor's product understandably heavily informed that design, > > and I'm not knocking it). Am pretty sure Ralph Lauren was also very free > > with the funds for this project. > > > > Tom Walden > > > > > To unsubscribe or to change to a daily Digest, please go to http://www.airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html If replying back to this message, please delete all the unnecessary original text from your reply.
