VACList DigestVACList-Digest Saturday, September 28, 2002 Issue 439
Today's Topics:
1. Overnight at Wal Mart?
2. Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
3. Re: Zip Dee Questions
4. Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
5. propane tanks
6. Re: Cleco pliers
7. New to Fulltiming? (was Wal Mart)
8. Re: propane tanks
9. Re: Cleco pliers
10. Safari Double Configuration
11. Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
12. Re: propane tanks
13. Re: Clekos and Belly Pan Repair Methods
14. Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
15. Re: Clekos and Belly Pan Repair Methods
16. Re: Safari Double Configuration
17. Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
18. Re: Hub caps
19. Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
20. Re: propane tanks
21. Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
22. Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
23. Clekos, punches and Aluminum Repair Methods
24. Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
25. Re: Tow Vehicle - for Airstream
26. Water pump woes
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Message Number: 1
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:29:02 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Overnight at Wal Mart?
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Hi All,
I noted that many of the Wal Mart parking lots have a height restriction =
of 12 feet. At first this really upset me as I shop at Super Wal Mart =
for most of my travel goods. Usually large parking lots, convenient to =
freeway access, and a good assortment of . . .
However, I wasn't sure of the height of my Argosy with air-conditioned. =
I think it's quite close to 10-1/2 feet. Being unsure, I opted to find =
an older store without the height restrictions. Anyone know the actual =
height of my '69 Safari 23 and '74 Argosy 22, both with air-conditioned?
I also noticed motor homes in several parking lots (very early, like 2 =
AM) and surmised that they were spending the night rather than in a =
campground. Seemed like a pretty good idea to me since I noticed that =
many of the rest stops along the Interstate system have dump stations. =
Is using Wal Mart parking lots permissible and is it a common practice? =
Seems to me that $25 a day will add up over the course of a trip to an =
event.
Thanks for any help.
Regards, Joy
----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Greene=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: [VAC] Help for a New Airstreame Owner
I've been in touch with a couple who are new owners of a ' 74 =
Airstream. They have several questions about getting started using their =
Airstream and doing some typical fix up projects. They are looking for =
other Airstream owners in their area who might help get them started. =
The couple is Duane and Marie Wells and they live in the Kearney, =
Nebraska. Anybody live close to Kearney who could help Duane and Marie =
get started? Contact them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can assist. =
Thanks.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I noted that many of the Wal Mart =
parking lots have=20
a height restriction of 12 feet. At first this really upset me as =
I shop=20
at Super Wal Mart for most of my travel goods. Usually large =
parking lots,=20
convenient to freeway access, and a good assortment of . . =20
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>However, I wasn't sure of the height of =
my Argosy=20
with air-conditioned. I think it's quite close to 10-1/2 =
feet. Being=20
unsure, I opted to find an older store without the height =
restrictions. =20
Anyone know the actual height of my '69 Safari 23 and '74 Argosy 22, =
both with=20
air-conditioned?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I also noticed motor homes in several =
parking lots=20
(very early, like 2 AM) and surmised that they were spending the night =
rather=20
than in a campground. Seemed like a pretty good idea to me since I =
noticed=20
that many of the rest stops along the Interstate system have dump=20
stations. Is using Wal Mart parking lots permissible and is it a =
common=20
practice? Seems to me that $25 a day will add up over the course =
of a trip=20
to an event.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Thanks for any help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D4> &nbs=
p; =20
Regards, Joy</FONT></DIV>
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<A [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
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Greene</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Multiple recipients of =
VACList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 27, =
2002 11:17=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Help for a New =
Airstreame=20
Owner</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been in touch with a couple who =
are new=20
owners of a ' 74 Airstream. They have several questions about getting =
started=20
using their Airstream and doing some typical fix up projects. They are =
looking=20
for other Airstream owners in their area who might help get them =
started. The=20
couple is Duane and Marie Wells and they live in the Kearney, =
Nebraska.=20
Anybody live close to Kearney who could help Duane and Marie get =
started?=20
Contact them at <A =
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> if=20
you can assist. Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>' 68=20
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Message Number: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:16:15 -0600
From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
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Check this out: http://www.freecampgrounds.com/slugs.html
Wal-Mart is famously RV'er/Trailerite-friendly... the usual protocol is =
to go into the store and let the manager know you'd like to park for the =
night (i wouldn't recommend using the term 'camp'), and ask if there's a =
particular place they'd like you to park... They seem to have figured =
out that RV'ers will usually do some shopping during the stay... =
wouldn't recommend putting out awnings or bbq grill, etc., either.
Tuna
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mr. Joy H. Hansen=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [VAC] Overnight at Wal Mart?
Hi All,
I noted that many of the Wal Mart parking lots have a height =
restriction of 12 feet. At first this really upset me as I shop at =
Super Wal Mart for most of my travel goods. Usually large parking lots, =
convenient to freeway access, and a good assortment of . . .
However, I wasn't sure of the height of my Argosy with =
air-conditioned. I think it's quite close to 10-1/2 feet. Being =
unsure, I opted to find an older store without the height restrictions. =
Anyone know the actual height of my '69 Safari 23 and '74 Argosy 22, =
both with air-conditioned?
I also noticed motor homes in several parking lots (very early, like 2 =
AM) and surmised that they were spending the night rather than in a =
campground. Seemed like a pretty good idea to me since I noticed that =
many of the rest stops along the Interstate system have dump stations. =
Is using Wal Mart parking lots permissible and is it a common practice? =
Seems to me that $25 a day will add up over the course of a trip to an =
event.
Thanks for any help.
Regards, Joy
----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Greene=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: [VAC] Help for a New Airstreame Owner
I've been in touch with a couple who are new owners of a ' 74 =
Airstream. They have several questions about getting started using their =
Airstream and doing some typical fix up projects. They are looking for =
other Airstream owners in their area who might help get them started. =
The couple is Duane and Marie Wells and they live in the Kearney, =
Nebraska. Anybody live close to Kearney who could help Duane and Marie =
get started? Contact them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can assist. =
Thanks.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Check this out: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.freecampgrounds.com/slugs.html";>http://www.freecampgro=
unds.com/slugs.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wal-Mart is famously =
RV'er/Trailerite-friendly...=20
the usual protocol is to go into the store and let the manager know =
you'd like=20
to park for the night (i wouldn't recommend using the term 'camp'), =
and ask=20
if there's a particular place they'd like you to park... They seem to =
have=20
figured out that RV'ers will usually do some shopping during the stay... =
wouldn't recommend putting out awnings or bbq grill, etc., =
either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tuna</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Mr. Joy H.=20
Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Multiple recipients of =
VACList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 27, =
2002 5:29=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Overnight at Wal =
Mart?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I noted that many of the Wal Mart =
parking lots=20
have a height restriction of 12 feet. At first this really upset =
me as I=20
shop at Super Wal Mart for most of my travel goods. Usually =
large=20
parking lots, convenient to freeway access, and a good assortment of =
. =20
. .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>However, I wasn't sure of the height =
of my Argosy=20
with air-conditioned. I think it's quite close to 10-1/2 =
feet. =20
Being unsure, I opted to find an older store without the height=20
restrictions. Anyone know the actual height of my '69 Safari 23 =
and '74=20
Argosy 22, both with air-conditioned?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>I also noticed motor homes in several =
parking=20
lots (very early, like 2 AM) and surmised that they were spending the =
night=20
rather than in a campground. Seemed like a pretty good idea to =
me since=20
I noticed that many of the rest stops along the Interstate system have =
dump=20
stations. Is using Wal Mart parking lots permissible and is it a =
common=20
practice? Seems to me that $25 a day will add up over the course =
of a=20
trip to an event.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Thanks for any help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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size=3D4> &nbs=
p; =20
Regards, Joy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>James=20
Greene</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Multiple recipients of =
VACList</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 27, =
2002 11:17=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Help for a New =
Airstreame Owner</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been in touch with a couple =
who are new=20
owners of a ' 74 Airstream. They have several questions about =
getting=20
started using their Airstream and doing some typical fix up =
projects. They=20
are looking for other Airstream owners in their area who might help =
get them=20
started. The couple is Duane and Marie Wells and they live in the =
Kearney,=20
Nebraska. Anybody live close to Kearney who could help Duane and =
Marie get=20
started? Contact them at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> if you can =
assist.=20
Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jim Greene</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>' 68=20
Tradewind</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:14:36 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip Dee Questions
Zip Dee continues to make the AS-1 style hardware that will fit on your coach.
With that hardware you can put a new awning on or if you can find a used one of
the correct length. Measuring for the awning is the distance from the front edge
of the side sheet to the rear edge.
Charlie
My Airstream wrote:
> All that is left of the original awning on my 66 Safari is a 12 ft. long
> overhead track and two bottom brackets. I would like to put a stock Zip Dee
> on the coach. Does anybody have any suggestions on how best to pull this
> off?
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:58:39 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
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Thanks Tuna,
The link says a lot. And, I prefer to use the KOA facilities until I =
find something less expensive with equal amenities. =20
Is it possible that the height restrictions are there to keep fifth =
wheels out or can I believe that it's just the high 18 wheelers? A flat =
bed 18 wheeler with 50 bushel of rebar certainly would slip under the =
height restrictor. :)
Possibly Wal-Mart is trying to establish a new icon like the golden =
arches? A surround of single square arch to blend in with the =
blue/gray/red strip?
Joy
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Thanks Tuna,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>The link says a lot. And, I =
prefer to use the=20
KOA facilities until I find something less expensive with equal =
amenities. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Is it possible that the height =
restrictions are=20
there to keep fifth wheels out or can I believe that it's just the high =
18=20
wheelers? A flat bed 18 wheeler with 50 bushel of rebar certainly =
would=20
slip under the height restrictor. :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4>Possibly Wal-Mart is trying to =
establish a new icon=20
like the golden arches? A surround of single square arch to blend =
in with=20
the blue/gray/red strip?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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Joy</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Message Number: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:46:42 -0700
From: "Alec Fisken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: propane tanks
I have a few questions on LP tanks:
I was told the Home Depot-type inexpensive, pre-filled LP tanks that you
trade your old one in for were not legal for use on an RV. I assume that's
true - can anyone confirm?
If the original tanks are rusted and I want to get new ones, is there any
reason someone would want the old non-aluminum ones?
I'm looking at replacing the regulator on my Globetrotter. The Fisher one at
Inland RV is about $120, but there are other RV parts places that sell other
brands for around $30. Is there any reason I need to buy the Fisher?
It looks easy to replace the hoses between the regulator and the tanks. Is
it best to also replace the line between the regulator and where the propane
lines start branching out under the trailer? Mine looks like a corrugated
conduit, about 1" diameter. No obvious damage, but old. Should I dump it?
Thanks!
Kathy in Seattle
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Message Number: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:57:30 -0400
From: Terry Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cleco pliers
Hi Tom,
Until I went to the website, I didn't know about them. Thanks for the head
up.
Terry
> From: VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:04:29 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC]
>
> Have you ever heard of Cleco's or Cleco pliars?
>
> What about self drawing cleco's in different lengths and drill sizes? The
> same goes for the spring actuated regular Cleco's.
>
> If you don't have the sheetmetal tools to do the job correctly it's a PITA.
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Message Number: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:33:45 -0600
From: "Tuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New to Fulltiming? (was Wal Mart)
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Some of the chatter on the Airstream list discusses the WalMart thing =
from time to time... Flying J truck stops welcome RV'ers too - i've =
overnighted a couple of times, wedged between two big-rigs with their =
engines running all night. It takes some getting used to.=20
The year I was full-timing cross-country, I used KOA more than anything =
else for overnights and one- or two-day stays. When I found a place i =
liked (like Tucson), i'd scout around for a mobile-home park that =
accepted travel trailers for longer-term stays, so i could hook up a =
phone and cable tv. I guess nowadays some rv/trailer parks have =
phone/cable hookups available... can't wait until dsl/cable modem =
hookups become standard, too.
Tuna
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some of the chatter on the Airstream =
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RV'ers too -=20
i've overnighted a couple of times, wedged between two big-rigs with =
their=20
engines running all night. It takes some getting used to. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The year I was full-timing =
cross-country, I used=20
KOA more than anything else for overnights and one- or two-day stays. =
When I=20
found a place i liked (like Tucson), i'd scout around for a mobile-home =
park=20
that accepted travel trailers for longer-term stays, so i could hook up =
a phone=20
and cable tv. I guess nowadays some rv/trailer parks have =
phone/cable=20
hookups available... can't wait until dsl/cable modem hookups become =
standard,=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 22:47:50 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: propane tanks
Most RV rated LP regulators are in the $30 range. Even from Fisher
around here.
The bottle swap vendors may not like their tanks used on an RV, I don't
know of any legal reason otherwise.
Rusty tanks may not be certifiable, and so may have only scrap metal
value, and then only when cleaned out.
The corrugated line is probably not in perfect shape. Such pipes have
been known to burn houses down (they are often used to allow moving a
stove away from the wall for cleaning or connection). The modern LP
vendor will supply the whole package, regulator, tank hoses, and a hose
to go from the regulator to the piping with the proper connections. Take
them the whole assembly of the old parts including the corrugated pipe
and ask for new pieces. Nearly all LP gas dealers have equipment
departments with a good supply of all the needed parts and fittings, and
the expertise to put it all together.
Then when you remount that assembly on the trailer, the first thing you
do (and you should do this at least yearly) is to mix up a soapy water
solution and brush it (or apply with a paper towel or wash rag) on all
the connections and parts after turning on the tanks. If any bubbles
appear, tighten the fitting or replace the leaky part. Sometimes the
factory hoses leak. Did for me when I went though this process a couple
years ago. A leak can be disastrous to the trailer and hard on your
health (burns from fires can be hard to recover from). All the
accessible LP plumbing needs such a check and much is accessible either
in the water heater compartment, or the refrigerator access compartment
or under the trailer where the LP plumbing is outside the belly skin.
Gerald J.
--
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
Reproduction by permission only.
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:43:31 -0400
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cleco pliers
My pleasure, Terry.
Tom
> Hi Tom,
>
> Until I went to the website, I didn't know about them. Thanks for the head
> up.
>
> Terry
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:02:33 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Safari Double Configuration
Hi Everyone,
I've looked through various archives and haven't found any pictures of how
the dresser and closet are situated across from the double bed gaucho mid
section of my '71. The former owner removed them and I have the bits and
pieces but don't know how they should be arranged. In that area there's the
water heater in the corner next to the bathroom wall and if something is put
there it would have to be elevated above it. Furnace ducting runs across this
area too. A description or a picture would be a tremendous help.
Jeanne
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:08:31 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Overnight at Wal Mart?
Joy Hansen.
The height also depends on the condition of the axles.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:19:37 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: propane tanks
Gerald J.
If you can get the automatic change over Fisher LPG regulator exactly as
Airstream used for about $30.00, please place an order from us for one
hundred of them.
Then we can pass the bargain on to others.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:17:35 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clekos and Belly Pan Repair Methods
Thanks Bob,
I just went to the web site and ordered several sizes of clekos and pliers
for work on my '69 Safari. Needed a nudge to get these much needed tools!
The skin curve of the side panels will be very difficult to pull into and
hold in position. A tech did some and used a jack to force the curve -
damaged the panels with large dents and mis-alignment. Do you have a
suggestion for pulling these into position so they can be secured properly?
The skin panels are quite thick and resist bending, like didn't take a curve
set. When I removed the original rivets, the panels straightened out to
near flat appearance.
I had thoughts about a strong back along side the trailer and web straps
pulled to the opposite side of the trailer - then a length of 2X4 jacked up
against the skin to hold it straight for fastening? Don't recall if I can
use clamps and clekos, but . . .
Regards, Joy
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:38:00 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
Hi All,
Somewhere in the future I'll need to paint my Argosy. I plan on the top
down to the middle trim be white and the lower part be aluminum to match my
puller. In my memory, I recall discussion that Airstream was painting the
roof of units with insulating paint. If true, I'd sure like to use
insulating paint to reduce the interior temperature of my Argosy.
Anyone recall if insulating paint is available and if it was/is successfully
used for Airstream products?
'74 Argosy, Joy
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:35:53 -0400
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clekos and Belly Pan Repair Methods
You need to order and purchase some of the *draw type cleckos". These will
help suck in the skin around these curves as long as it's not drastic AND as
long as the holes that were drilled out for the original rivets still are
roughly the same size.
You will have to work from one end slowly towards the next and then go back
and retighten the fasteners again where you started. Sometimes it helps to
get one edge down pretty good, then work from the middle edge outwards to
the top, center and bottom. If you can do all of these at the same time it
works nicely.
How many arms did you say you had?
Whoever used a jack and a 2x4 to accomplish sheetmetal work on your trailer
is not a metal mechanic. The proper use of tools and equipment will NOT
result in damage.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Clekos and Belly Pan Repair Methods
> Thanks Bob,
>
> I just went to the web site and ordered several sizes of clekos and pliers
> for work on my '69 Safari. Needed a nudge to get these much needed tools!
>
> The skin curve of the side panels will be very difficult to pull into and
> hold in position. A tech did some and used a jack to force the curve -
> damaged the panels with large dents and mis-alignment. Do you have a
> suggestion for pulling these into position so they can be secured
properly?
> The skin panels are quite thick and resist bending, like didn't take a
curve
> set. When I removed the original rivets, the panels straightened out to
> near flat appearance.
>
> I had thoughts about a strong back along side the trailer and web straps
> pulled to the opposite side of the trailer - then a length of 2X4 jacked
up
> against the skin to hold it straight for fastening? Don't recall if I can
> use clamps and clekos, but . . .
>
> Regards, Joy
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:38:21 -0400
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Safari Double Configuration
Are you looking for a floorplan? Is that it?
How long is your Airstream? I didn't see it posted.
Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: [VAC] Safari Double Configuration
> Hi Everyone,
> I've looked through various archives and haven't found any pictures of how
> the dresser and closet are situated across from the double bed gaucho mid
> section of my '71. The former owner removed them and I have the bits and
> pieces but don't know how they should be arranged. In that area there's
the
> water heater in the corner next to the bathroom wall and if something is
put
> there it would have to be elevated above it. Furnace ducting runs across
this
> area too. A description or a picture would be a tremendous help.
>
> Jeanne
>
>
>
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Message Number: 17
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 13:01:41 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
Joy, my understanding is the paint isn't as much insulating as it is
reflecting. Being painted white, the roof will reflect heat better than a
plain, unpainted aluminum roof will -- as strange as that seems. Andy told
me that Inland uses a DuPont paint called Basemaker as the first base coat
and then puts a protective coat of poly on top of that.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:38
Subject: [VAC] Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
> Hi All,
>
> Somewhere in the future I'll need to paint my Argosy. I plan on the top
> down to the middle trim be white and the lower part be aluminum to match
my
> puller. In my memory, I recall discussion that Airstream was painting the
> roof of units with insulating paint. If true, I'd sure like to use
> insulating paint to reduce the interior temperature of my Argosy.
>
> Anyone recall if insulating paint is available and if it was/is
successfully
> used for Airstream products?
>
> '74 Argosy, Joy
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 18
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:49:53 -0600
From: "gshippen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hub caps
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To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002
Subject: [VAC] Re: Hub caps
Greetings fellow airstreamers.
I am looking for four of the original hub caps to fit my 1966 Overlander.
If anyone has any for sale please contact me off list or if there is a
source for new ones?
GAS
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Message Number: 19
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:51:57 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
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You might want to check on the "R"value of insulating paint many companies
tout the insolation value of their products but in reality the insulation
value is minimal . Jim Smith
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Message Number: 20
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:32:13 -0400
From: "Thomas LaVergne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: propane tanks
<Original Message -----
From: Alec Fisken
Is there any reason I need to buy the Fisher?>
I just replaced mine with a regulator from my local RV store for $40.
<Is it best to also replace the line between the regulator and where the
propane
lines start branching out under the trailer? Thanks!>
I replaced all my rubber lines.
Thomas #8848 '79 Ambassador
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Message Number: 21
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:46:21 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
Hi Jim,
You might surmise that the roof of my Argosy is near white (beige) and it
gets hot enough that I can't hold my hand on the surface (outside).
Translates into high heat inside under any circumstance. Don't think that
just reflection is the solution; however, the window reflecting screens sure
seem to do a great job.
Thanks for the heads up on "Basemaker" as a first coat. My recent trip
where I made 6 days of travel in sometimes torrential rain removed much of
the paint from the front of the Argosy. Looks like a Dalmatian right now.
Sort of matches the orange/black/rust of my Hensley hitch assembly! :)
As always, your hints are right on target.
Regards, '74 Argosy, Joy
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Message Number: 22
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:18:00 -0700
From: "Jack Honeycutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
At 04:46 PM 9/28/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>You might surmise that the roof of my Argosy is near white (beige) and it
>gets hot enough that I can't hold my hand on the surface (outside).
>Translates into high heat inside under any circumstance. Don't think that
>just reflection is the solution; however, the window reflecting screens sure
>seem to do a great job.
At the local hardware store is a white goop sold in 1 gallon cans and 5
gallon buckets that you use to mop onto your surface.
It is used on roofs in houses to stop water leaks, *and* give you a higher
"R" value.
Some non Airstream folks use it as a quick fix to mop the top of a old RV
to stop leaks and cool up the insides. I see it at just about any large or
small hardware store (I am sure Home Depot has it). It looks messy, but it
might be the answer. It dries to a rubber type hardness.
jack in Portland Oregon
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Message Number: 23
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:25:53 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Clekos, punches and Aluminum Repair Methods
> Do you have a
>suggestion for pulling these into position so they can be secured properly?
>The skin panels are quite thick and resist bending, like didn't take a curve
>set. When I removed the original rivets, the panels straightened out to
>near flat appearance.
Joy,
What I do when attaching sheet metal to my Airstream is to pre-punch the
rivet hole in the patch panel. The punch I use has an adjustable fence to
keep the holes evenly spaced from the edge of the patch. You still have to
layout the rivet spacing between rivets. It's best to be fussy with this
spacing. If your not, the patch will look crummy. Pros use a special
proportional spacing tool from the aircraft industry to do this. I just
start out with two holes opposite each other then just keep halfing the
distances between then till I get the desired number of holes.
The reason to pre punch the holes is to keep burrs from forming between the
patch and the Airstream body. If the burr forms when you are drilling and
riveting as you go, the burr will jack the patch away from the body. I also
coat the patch and each rivet with Vulcum to insure a watertight seam.
Here's where I got my punch:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44060
Bob Patterson
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Message Number: 24
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:39:31 -0700
From: Rivka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Painting the Exterior of an Airstream or Argosy
I also saw a aluminized silver version that the really touted as heat
relection, there have tons of info on it at my local home store, who
knows
>
>At the local hardware store is a white goop sold in 1 gallon cans
>and 5 gallon buckets that you use to mop onto your surface.
>
>It is used on roofs in houses to stop water leaks, *and* give you a
>higher "R" value.
>
>Some non Airstream folks use it as a quick fix to mop the top of a
>old RV to stop leaks and cool up the insides. I see it at just
>about any large or small hardware store (I am sure Home Depot has
>it). It looks messy, but it might be the answer. It dries to a
>rubber type hardness.
>
>jack in Portland Oregon
--
Rivka and Her Girls
"Destiny" a '66 Airstream Ambassador
& "Belladonna", a '74 Airstream Overlander
"A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." -- Lao Tzu
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Message Number: 25
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:45:01 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tow Vehicle - for Airstream
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Yup! That's the type. It enables my girlfriend and I to take =
comfortable weekenders but when the inevitable time comes that I have to =
move out of my current park at least I'll have a puller.
I should mention that my Safari weight has been trimmed down to 3100 =
pounds so it should not strain the Class B Puller.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari=20
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA =20
Bob,
Class B as in a Class B Airstream high-top van?
Tom
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To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 6:59 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tow Vehicle - for Airstream
Thanks Tom for the inspirational look back to a finer age. I think =
it would be great if all members keep a lookout for vintage and other =
good pullers. I'm looking for a high top van Class B van that could be =
used as a puller.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari=20
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA =20
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From: Tom=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: [VAC] Tow Vehicle - for Airstream
=
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/detailbig.cfm?Autos__ID=3D60160
Really great deal on a used Dodge Power Wagon. Just $1995
Tom Meeker
WBCCI 5303
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Message Number: 26
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:37:08 -0600
From: "Pete Ryner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Water pump woes
It's been over a year in restoration but I finally got our '68 Airstream
back on the road. After replacing the bathroom floor, all plumbing, almost
all new appliances and a new custom oak interior built from scratch, I was
excited to give it a try. Although I have no drawers or doors yet, and have
a couple of cupboards to make and the table to finish and install (the list
goes on), it was done enough for the shake down trip. Most everything
worked great. No water leaks, the new furnace worked well after the first
day and a half - think I had a stuck sail switch, but it worked out, new
fridge worked great as well as the new optima battery. I highly recommend
the latter! The one puzzling thing I have to figure out is the water pump.
It works well and puts out lots of volume, but every time it pumps, the
entire 12V system pulses. Can't believe it can pull that much current. Is
this normal? This is the original pump. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Pete
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