Really?  Personally I tend to wipe Windows off the machine and install that
way.  Certainly a server would never have dual boot.  I would think only a
desktop machine would ever have dual boot, and even then it's something to
avoid if possible.

Am I alone in this?

Tony


On 1/9/08 5:05 PM, "Richard Jeroloman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Linux is generally installed on a computer in dual boot mode with Windows,
> using Grub as boot loader.  New computers generally come with 2 partitions,
> the second being a recovery partition.  There can be problems installing linux
> - Windows Vista may stop working and the recovery feature may no longer work
> after Grub is installed on the MBR.  These problems, and what to do about them
> should be addressed.
>                                                    Terry
> 
>> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:08:28 -0500
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: Relentless plugging of Linux at CCV
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > 
>> > Depending when the meeting is, I'll also plan to be there. I have not
>> > *taught* the courses, so Dave is definitely the better one to do the
>> > presentation. But I was on the curriculum committee when we designed them,
>> > so I have a bit of insight on that.
>> > 
>> > Also, I would be interested in how people on this list feel about the stuff
>> > we've got listed. We have an opportunity to tweak things (for Fall) if we
>> > hurry now, but would only want to tweak something if we can justify the
>> > need to include or change something, and if we can balance it with the
>> > amount of time we have (3CR course means 39 hours of class time).
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Tony Harris
>> > Assistant CTO
>> > Community College of Vermont
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > (802) 241-3535
>> > 
>> > Dwirze skí, évárre kólex.
>> > (One by one droplets, eventually an ocean.)
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>> > 
>> > --On January 7, 2008 8:29:08 AM -0500 Dave Tisdell
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > 
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi Paul,
>>> > >
>>> > > I'd be happy to do a presentation if I can make the meeting. They have
>>> > > often been scheduled at times that don't work for me.
>>> > > Here is a copy of the essential objectives for both Intro and
>>> > > intermediate Linux. Intro is desktop oriented and Intermediate is Server
>>> > > oriented.
>>> > > Intro Objectives:
>>> > > 1. Describe the difference between Open Source development and
>>> > > proprietary systems, discuss when Open Source software is appropriate,
>>> > > and explain how to acquire Open Source software and operating systems
>>> > > such as Linux.
>>> > > 2. Discuss the Unix philosophy of simple commands connected
>>> > > through pipes to accomplish tasks.
>>> > > 3. Describe the difference between a Command Line Interface (CLI)
>>> > > and a Graphical User Interface (GUI) and discuss the strengths and
>>> > > weaknesses of both.
>>> > > 4. Explain the security options available under standard Unix
>>> > > systems, including user IDs, passwords, and the use of Owner, Group, and
>>> > > World rights.
>>> > > 5. Demonstrate the use of one of the commonly available text
>>> > > editors on Unix-based systems, such as the 'vi' editor.
>>> > > 6. Discuss the purpose of a 'shell' program; demonstrate the use
>>> > > of common commands to manipulate files and system options, as well as
the
>>> > > use of 'shell scripts' to automate processes.
>>> > > 7. Discuss options for installing and configuring Linux on a
>>> > > personal computer, and explain how to locate information on
>>> > > Linux-compatible hardware components.
>>> > > 8. Explain how to configure Linux and other Unix systems using
>>> > > text-based configuration files.
>>> > > 9. Explain how to find and use available documentation such as
>>> > > the HOWTO documents, man pages, info pages, and the documentation
>>> > > provided with Open Source software packages.
>>> > > 10. Discuss the options available for obtaining and installing
>>> > > additional software packages such as word processors and Web browsers on
>>> > > Linux systems.
>>> > > 11. Discuss the role of the Internet, including Web Sites,
>>> > > Newsgroups, and Listservs, in finding answers to technical questions for
>>> > > Open Source systems such as Linux.
>>> > > 12. Discuss the networking and internet client and server options
>>> > > available on Unix-based systems.
>>> > > 13. Demonstrate the process of scheduling periodic and one-time
>>> > > jobs using the cron and at daemons.
>>> > > 14. Discuss the methods and commands used to control processes on
>>> > > a Linux system including suspending, resuming, killing and changing the
>>> > > priority of running processes.
>>> > > 15. Describe X-Windows, the graphical user environment commonly
>>> > > used on Unix-based systems, and discuss the purpose of and differences
>>> > > between common Window Manager packages such as KDE and GNOME.
>>> > >
>>> > > Intermediate objectives:
>>> > > 1. Discuss the setup considerations that differ between setting
>>> > > up a workstation and a server.
>>> > > 2. Discuss the process of installing and configuring the Linux
>>> > > operating system on a computer, with emphasis on setting it up for usage
>>> > > as a server as opposed to a workstation.
>>> > > 3. Discuss various techniques for hardening a Linux installation
>>> > > against intrusion, including configuration of the software firewall
>>> > > (iptables), system services and startup options; management of the root
>>> > > account; and use of Bastille Linux, DenyHosts, and similar tools.
>>> > > 4. Demonstrate the ability to perform daily system management
>>> > > tasks, such as creating and managing user accounts, monitoring system
>>> > > logs, and performing backups of critical data.
>>> > > 5. Demonstrate the installation the latest version of an email
>>> > > server package on a Linux system, and discuss the configuration options
>>> > > for producing a secure, reliable email server using this package.
>>> > > 6. Demonstrate the installation of the latest version of the
>>> > > popular Apache web server on a Linux system, including the addition and
>>> > > configuration of modules such as mod_perl, PHP, and SSL support, and
>>> > > discuss the configuration options for producing a secure, reliable web
>>> > > server using this package.
>>> > > 7. Demonstrate the process of configuring an FTP service such as
>>> > > VSFTPD to provide both anonymous and user-specific FTP access to a Linux
>>> > > server, and discuss the security considerations in providing FTP access.
>>> > > 8. Demonstrate the installation of the latest version of an Open
>>> > > Source SQL database package such as MySQL or PostgreSQL on a Linux
>>> > > system, and discuss the configuration options for producing a secure,
>>> > > reliable database server using one of these packages.
>>> > > 9. Demonstrate the installation of the latest version of the
>>> > > popular Samba networking package, and discuss the use of Linux as a
>>> > > server in a Microsoft Windows based network.
>>> > > 10. Discuss the need for keeping a Linux system up to date
>>> > > including security patches, software upgrades, and the appropriate
>>> > > balance between system uptime, system reliability, and system security.
>>> > > 11. Explain the need for security, and discuss the importance of
>>> > > encryption, passwords, TCP wrappers, and other methods for preventing
>>> > > unauthorized access and use of a Linux system.
>>> > >
>>> > > Hope this helps.
>>> > >
>>> > > Dave
>>> > >
>>> > > David Tisdell. Music Teacher
>>> > > Browns River Middle School
>>> > > 20 River Road
>>> > > Jericho, VT 05465
>>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail)
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> > > student information and you are not entitled to access such information
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>>> > > to anyone.
>>> > >
>>>>>> > >>>> Paul Flint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/2/2008 11:47 AM >>>
>>> > > Dear Dave,
>>> > >
>>> > > I would be most interested in learning more about your curriculum. Is
>>> > > there a Vague meeting presentation in our collective futures?
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Flint
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Dave Tisdell wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > >> I am on the VAGUE list. I mostly read the list as I have time. Once in
>>>> > >> a while I post but not very often.
>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Paul Flint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/2/2008 11:06 AM >>>
>>>> > >> Dave,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Are you on the Vague List? I would opine that this list could be a way
>>>> > >> of
>>>> > >> promoting your instructional activity...
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Anyway, thanks for the good word.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Regards,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Flint
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Dave Tisdell wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > /************************************
>>> > > Based upon email reliability concerns,
>>> > > please send an acknowledgement in response to this note.
>>> > >
>>> > > Paul Flint
>>> > > Barre Open Systems Institute
>>> > > 17 Averill Street
>>> > > Barre, VT
>>> > > 05641
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.bosivt.org
>>> > > http://www.flint.com/home
>>> > > skype: flintinfotech
>>> > > Work: (202) 537-0480
>>> > > Fax: (703) 852-7089
>>> > >
>>> > > Free advice .~.
>>> > > is worth /V\
>>> > > exactly what /( )\
>>> > > you pay for it. ^^-^^
>>> > >
> 
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