Paul,

Fabulous advice as usual :-)

Thanks,
Bradley

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Paul Flint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Richard,
>
> I have encountered this phenomena before.  I call it the "Inoculation
> Effect".  The deal is typically that there were advocates who made FOSS work
> for a while, then politics (think current administration :^) caused changes
> to be made and "Presto!" OS-X lab (or worse inActive Directory maybe even
> Rickets er Citrix...).  Anyway, start signing everything you can find
> "Richard Stallman" drink tea, answer questions curtly and move slowly
> towards the door...
>
> Regards,
>
> Flint
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Richard Lawrence wrote:
>
>  Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:49:42 -0400
>> From: Richard Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Anyone using FOSS for scientific computing?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have a topic to throw out for discussion, if anyone is interested:
>> how many of you are using FOSS for academic or scientific computing?
>> Have you been successful with it?  Do you find yourselves fighting a
>> tide of money, bureaucracy, etc., or is your environment more receptive
>> to FOSS than perhaps the general public is?
>>
>> I'm thinking of Numpy/Scipy here, Octave, R, etc. as alternatives to
>> things like Matlab and SPSS.
>>
>> I ask because I recently moved to Philadelphia to start a job as a
>> programmer and research coordinator in a psychology lab.  I accepted the
>> job largely because I thought I would be working in Python, writing FOSS
>> data analysis programs that would be used both in this lab and
>> distributed freely.  As it turns out, my lab is extremely Matlab focused
>> (which means that any code I write can't be run by anyone who doesn't
>> pay the $$$$ for the proprietary Matlab license, unless I spend time
>> making it compatible with Octave), and the principal investigator
>> consistently chides me for pushing for greater Python and Octave use.
>> (Yesterday, he said, "Your first name is Richard...but your last name's
>> not Stallman, right?")  He also has what I consider to be slightly
>> suspect ideas about what it means to be a steward of taxpayer dollars.
>>
>> All of this is a little odd to me, because according to lab lore, at one
>> time you weren't allowed to graduate if you had never compiled a kernel.
>> Now, we're all on OS X.
>>
>> Have others encountered this scenario?  Did you have any success pushing
>> back?  Do you have a persuasive counter-argument to the "pragmatism, not
>> idealism" sentiment that has apparently won out here?
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
> Kindest Regards,
>
>
>
> Paul Flint
> (802) 479-2360
>
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