No, not suggesting that at all. What I was trying to get across is that modules don't "fail" in that manner. There may be a problem with the BIOS (as others have said) that would interact badly with an ACPI module, but that wouldn't be Linux/Ubuntu's fault. My original statement was based on the fact that Linux/Ubuntu has been installed thousands of times on a Dell Latitude, and has worked just fine. Perhaps I didn't come across very well with that, but that was the intent...

Dan



Stanley Brinkerhoff wrote:
Dan,

Are you suggesting that the operating system has absolutely no ability control over the system fan's? Specifically that there is no way the i8k kernel module somehow failed and left the fans in a disabled state, and/or that some other ACPI control system disabled CPU throttling?

In this case it seems as though the CPU fan died of its own means around the same time I installed Ubuntu; or simply the installation exacerbated the issue due to installing Ubuntu and performing updates caused the system to work at full cpu speed -- while Windows was able to scale the CPU speed back as I was not doing anything very intense. That failure along with the system running extremely hot for a period of time perhaps assisted a 2 year old abused laptop drive to stop working (it actually works now that it has cooled off.. as scarry as that seems to me... so it may have just been a southgate/ide controller overheating).

Stan

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Dan Clough <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hogwash. Clearly a hardware (HD, fan maybe) failure, and nothing
    to do with Ubuntu or linux.

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    *From*: Stanley Brinkerhoff
    *Date*: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:20:23 -0500
    *To*: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Subject*: Ubuntu killed my harddrive!
    I have been running Windows 2008 Server on my laptop for the past
    120 days.  Last night it finally gave me a "register or die"
message, and I was going to give Ubuntu a shot as my primary OS. I already run it on my servers and development laptop, but day to
    day I still use Windows.

    I installed it last night, and went to bed with it running
    updates.  This morning it was turned off, and when I turned it
    back on it said something about the machine as shutdown due to
    thermal failure (!!).  Today at work I was working away ... and
    the machine became very slow (it was just idling with some
    terminal windows open).  I shut it down, picked it up and it
    literally burned my hands. I let it cool down, and now it refuses
    to recognize the harddrive (a replacement works -- yay for spare
    parts!).

    Has anyone ever experienced this??  Is there something special you
    need to do with a modern-ish Dell laptop to run Ubutnu?  Its been
    chugging away fine for years on my Dell Latitude X300 and other
    laptops.

    LINUX (or some combination of that and bad power management?)
    KILLED MY HARDDRIVE!

    Stan

    Ubuntu 8.10, Dell latitude D620, intel core duo 2.0ghz.



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