Hi Serge,
I'm Andrea the developer of vala toys,
On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 14:27 +0200, Serge Hulne wrote:
> Which Linux distibution is used for developing vtg (Vala toys for gedit) ?
Currently I'm using debian sid
>
>
> Personally, I prefer Ubuntu, and more specifically Ubuntu LTS ("long time
> service", since it is supported for a couple of years and is therefore ideal
> for servers).
>
> - Using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I managed to install the version before-last of
> vtg, but not the latest.
Yes that's is somehow expected since with the last version I switched to
the gnome 3.0 stack (gtk+ gedit etc...)
> - On a separate distribution, I installed the latest version of Ubuntu
> (11.04). In that version, the latest versions of Vala and libgee are
> available as packages, however only the version-before-last of vtg is
> available (and the latest won't even install from source, because of unmet
> dependencies relatively of he version of gtk+-3 required).
Again that's unfortunate, but expected.
>
>
> Advantages expected from a more conservative approach:
>
> 1. Would it not be preferable to use a less recent version of of GTK, so
> that more conservative (also more stable) distributions of Linux can
> benefit
> from it as well?
Yes, but that require some more work and I don't have the time to
maintain two branches ATM.
> 2. On what system is vtg developed (Debian "unstable, I guess") ?
As I said yes.
> 3. A more conservative approach relatively to the version of GTK involved
> would not only benefit more conservative distributions of Linux, but also
> users making use of Vala / vtg under Linux ports such as:
This release has more problems of the previous because I wanted to
support gnome 3.0 stack, for the next releases I will *try* to be more
conservative about the dependencies.
> 4.
> - Macports (Linux port for Mac). N.B: Unlike Vala or libgee, vtg won't
> compile under MacPorts (and is not available as a MacPort
> package either),
> which is a pity since Vala is available on that system.
> - Cygwin or Mingw for Windows.
I remember that I compiled vala-toys on a mac in the 0.6 time, but now I
don't have access to any mac anymore so...
>
> 5. The benefit of such an approach would be to increase the potential
> user base for Vala (a lot of potential developers will not take a
> programming language seriously if it does not offer a development GUI
> comparable to Eclipse or QTDevelop, for fear of wasting time by constantly
> switching between the doc, the editor and the command-line).
I principle I agree with you, but for this release I was forced to make
a choice since the maintenance of two different versions was out of
question for me.
As you said until now vala-toys was pretty low on library versions and
it will continue this way for the next releases. I hope that this was
and will be the first exception for a long time.
>
>
> Serge.
Regards,
Andrea.
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