2013/12/4 Juarez Rudsatz <juar...@gmail.com>
> Luca, Daniel,
>
> LINQ is just some kind of syntax for some functional
>> programming aspects. It's about to be a 1:1 mapping with
>> filter-map, also fold and scan..
>>
>
> You are mostly correct about LINQ to Objects.
> In this case the .net designers capitalized from the popularity of LINQ to
> SQL and used the same syntax and naming to add this support to .Net.
> I also agree that is not necessary to force the language syntax to get the
> desired results.
>
> But LINQ to Entities and LINQ to SQL are different beasts:
>
> Quoting [1] :
>
>> LINQ-to-Objects is a set of extension methods on IEnumerable<T> that
>> allow you to perform in-memory query operations on arbitrary sequences of
>> objects. The methods accept simple delegates when necessary.
>>
>> LINQ-to-Entities is a LINQ provider that has a set of extension methods
>> on IQueryable<T>. The methods build up an expression tree (which is why
>> delegates are actually passed as Expression<>s), and the provider will
>> build up a SQL query based on its parsing of that expression tree.
>>
>
> The L2E implements a ORM that executes the following workflow:
>
> Language syntax -> Expression Tree -> Query caching -> SQL text ->
> database -> serialization -> collection objects in languge.
>
> For example, in this code:
>
> var db = new MyDatabaseContext();
> var query =
> from c in db.Contacts
> join o in db.Orders
> on c.ContactId == o.ContactId
> join p in db.Payments
> on p.Number == p.OrderNumber
> where p.DueDate < DateTime.Today()
> && p.PaidValue < o.Amount
> select new
> {
> ContactName = c.Name,
> ContactPhone = c.Phone,
> OrderNumber = o.Number,
> o.Amount,
> o.DueDate,
> AmountPaid = p.PaidValue
> };
>
> foreach(var contact in query)
> {
> print("%30s %10s %8i %10f %10d %10f",
> contact.ContactName,
> contact.ContactPhone,
> contact.Amount,
> contact.DueDate,
> contact.AmountPaid
> );
> }
>
> What are the language features needed that I still haven't found in Vala:
>
> 1) Expression Support, type instrospection support
>
> The whole query statement above is not evaluated locally.
> Instead it builds a Expression Tree (AST) and when invocated in foreach
> loop it builds a SQL Query and execute against a database, object
> repository, etc...
>
> I couldn't find in vala how to store the expression where *p.DueDate <
> DateTime.Today() && p.PaidValue < o.Amount* in a Expression tree for
> using it later for building a SQL query.
>
>
I would like to create a Selectable and Expression interface, using GDA as
back-end to implement them. With that in mind we can create programatically
an expression tree to be parsed on demand to get required objects. GdaData
allows you to run queries on-demand, you haven't any SQL command executed
when objects are created, but when data needs to be retrieved.
Then with a mechanism to parse expressions for any kind of data we can
create queries when required. GDA have a SqlParser for strings expressions
and SqlBuilder for programatically created ones, then just put this
infrastructure together to allows:
a) Data collections (Gee ones or Database ones) be queryable.
b) Create plug-ins for syntax support to easy and clean code declarations
> 2) Type Aliasing
>
> The classes db.Contacts, db.Orders and db.Payments are aliased to c, o and
> p and used after to indicate what class you are refering.
> Classes could be refered twice like in Person as teacher and Person as
> student.
>
> Why this is important:
> Because it binds the language type safety to the data model you have.
> Database applications are just boring repetitions of user input forms,
> reports and data procedures. When you change a table/class the compiler
> will help you check when the name/type change will break your code.
> Database aplications usually have hundreds of tables/classes and thousand
> of queries and type safety cut the much of the maintanance burden.
>
> 3) Anonymous objects
>
> Afte the query get back the results are materialized/serialized to a new
> anonymous type with local scope.
> In this example the select new statement creates a collection of anonymous
> objects. The var query gives to the variable this anonymous type.
>
> Why this is important:
> Because it saves the cuts a lot of code for declaring a new class that
> will be used once.
>
> I hope this could help understand what the benefits of a language
> integrated ORM for data intensive applications. Some things could add
> flexibility to language itself.
>
> Other features of LINQ to Entities:
>
> a) Lazy loading
>
> public class Person
> {
> string name { get; set; }
> Address address { get; set; }
> }
>
> // get a record from Person table
> Person friend =
> from f in db.Persons
> where f.Name = "Luca"
> select f;
>
> // Get a record from address table
> print(friend.address.street);
>
> b) Inheritance
>
> public class Customer : Person { ... }
>
>
>
> [1]
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7192040/linq-to-entities-vs-linq-to-objects-are-they-the-same
> [2]
> http://maanshah.wordpress.com/2012/03/02/linq-to-sql-vs-linq-to-objects-vs-linq-to-entities/
>
>
>
>> 2013/12/4 Daniel Espinosa <eso...@gmail.com>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/12/3 Juarez Rudsatz <juar...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> I checked the samples and some parts of the code.
>>>> Nice work. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Regarding language support, it seems to remain a good amount of work to
>>>> be done yet.
>>>>
>>> Do you mean Vala features right?
>>>
>>>> I'm counting the language features that will be necessary:
>>>> - Object serialization
>>>>
>>> Are you mean write some where. For XML serialization we have Vala's GXml
>>> project[1]. On GXml's serialization branch, you'll find my work on GObject
>>> serialization to XML, comparable with .NET but, I think more flexible[2].
>>>
>>>> - Anonymous types
>>>>
>>> - Expression and type introspection
>>>> - Type aliasing...
>>>> - Syntax changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At the end a Collection have objects with a set of properties, a SELECT
>>> expression is a filter of that set of objects and a set of properties. They
>>> could be stored in a DbRecord (as for libgda's GdaData [3] ) to save memory
>>> and adding something like "Methods_With_Syntax_Support" [4] , Vala compiler
>>> could transform:
>>>
>>> var selection = select name, salary from employees where id = "123";
>>> stdout.printf (@"$(selection.name) / $(selection.salary)");
>>>
>>> to:
>>> var _tmp_ = new ArrayList<Employee> ();
>>> _tmp_.add_all ( ((Traversable) employees).filter(
>>> (g)=>{ return id.equals (g) true : false;
>>> });
>>> var selection = ((Selectable) _tmp_).get_fields ("name",
>>> "salary");
>>> if (selection.size != 1)
>>> throw new SelectableError.MULTIPLE_VALUES_TO_SINGLE ("...");
>>> var _tmp2_ = selection[0].get_field("name");
>>> var _tmp3_ = selection[0].get_field("salary");
>>> stdout.printf (@"$(_tmp2_) / $(_tmp3_)");
>>>
>>>> What level of support you are planning?
>>>>
>>> Because I haven't used LINQ before, I don't know most of its features.
>>> Just think about to allow:
>>>
>>> a) Use a SQL like syntax to filter objects and properties, by adding
>>> support to Vala compiler to generate corresponding Vala or C code
>>> b) Object collection must implement at least Gee.Collection and its
>>> items must be Gee.Comparable and Selectable
>>> c) Add a Selectable interface to Gee to allow introspect objects
>>> properties and create a Collection with desired DbRecord set of values.
>>>
>>> I don't think mimic LINQ is correct. May we can do better, but is
>>> necessary to define use cases.
>>>
>>> The only one I have in mind is:
>>>
>>> a) select {list-of-fields} from {collection-object} where {condition}
>>>
>>> For this simple expression Vala's compiler should generate required code
>>> to:
>>>
>>> a) Check for collection-object is a GObject implementing Gee.Collection
>>> and its elements must be Gee.Comparable and Selectable
>>> b) Check for list-of-fields are public properties in collection-object
>>> c) Check for condition is using collection-object 's public properties
>>> d) Generate a Predicate<G> delegate function to find object required
>>> objects
>>> e) Fill a Gee.Collection with filtered objects
>>> f) Generate a Gee.Collection from Selectable, that produce rows and
>>> values/columns (with name=properties' name)
>>>
>>>> It would be well received by upstream developers?
>>>>
>>> Really don't know. I'm CC to Vala and Gee lists to hear them about this
>>> idea.
>>>
>>>> I'm planning a new architecture for ouro next applications and
>>>> considering vala. But the type safety and language support are the
>>>> strengths of linq we really appreciate.
>>>>
>>>> I'm planning to help someway, but I have a long way yet to be produtive.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Juarez
>>>>
>>> [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/gxml
>>> [2] https://git.gnome.org/browse/gxml/log/?h=serialization
>>> [3] https://git.gnome.org/browse/libgda/tree/libgda/data
>>> [4]
>>> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala/Tutorial#Methods_With_Syntax_Support
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Em 03/12/2013 16:35, "Daniel Espinosa" <eso...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> You can see a preview of my work on current stable libgda.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've finished interfaces and implementations under GdaData name space.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added some documentation just use --enable-vala-extensions
>>>>> --gtk-doc (some other switches are required) to see it installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Missed Selectable interface or implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to add syntax support on Vala compiler in order to have
>>>>> LINQ like one.
>>>>>
>>>>> For now is very easy to access to data using GdaData objects, see unit
>>>>> tests for more examples.
>>>>> El dic 3, 2013 10:03 a.m., "Juarez Rudsatz" <juar...@gmail.com>
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found that you have been working in a possible implementation of
>>>>>> LINQ in vala [1].
>>>>>> I see that you have made good progress regarding this support.
>>>>>> I want to know what is the current status.
>>>>>> What's missing yet? How is the work for getting basic support ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juarez
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/vala-list/2011-December/msg00140.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> cuates: LIBRE)
>>>
>>
>>
>
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