> On May 9, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Kevin Bourrillion <kev...@google.com> wrote:
> 
>>> But seriously, we won't get away with pretending there are just 3 buckets 
>>> if we do this. Let's be honest and call it B4.
>> "Bucket" is a term that makes sense in language design, but need not flow 
>> into the user model.  But yes, there really are three things that the user 
>> needs control over: identity, zero-friendliness, atomicity.  If you want to 
>> call that four buckets, I won't argue.
>> 
> I *am* of course only caring about the user model, and that's where I'm 
> saying we would not get away with pretending this isn't a 4th kind of 
> concrete class.

Here's a presentation that doesn't feel to me like it's describing a menu with 
four choices:

In Java, there are object references and there are primitives. For which kinds 
of values are you trying to declare a class?

If object references: okay, do your objects need identity or not?

If primitives: okay, do your primitives need atomicity or not?

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