Not quite. We don't unset the cookies in vcl_recv, but we've ensured that that function ends with "lookup", so we never hit the default recipe which would otherwise prevent caching if a cookie was set.

Then, we approximately do something like:

sub vcl_fetch {
   if (obj.ttl > 0) {
      unset obj.http.Set-Cookie;
   }
   ....
}

What this means is that: If the backend thinks the response is cacheable, then make sure we strip cookies. If it's not cacheable, then we don't care if cookies are set or not.

Obviously this can't be applied blindly in front of an arbitrary backend. Fortunately, our backends are running apps completely under our control, so this isn't a worry.
Rob


David Murphy wrote:
Thanks Rob

We use

 req.url ~ "^/admin/"

to identify the admin area of the site and we force Varnish to grab content 
from back end and not cache anything if this is part of URL. Works fine for us.

So,for JS personalisation you're unsetting cookies when saving the pages to cache, and then unsetting when serving from cache?
Something like? ...

sub vcl_recv {
    if (!req.url ~ "^/admin") {
        unset req.http.cookie;
    }
//snip
}

sub vcl_fetch {
    if (req.url ~ "^/admin") {
        unset beresp.http.set-cookie;
    }
//snip
}


Best, David

________________________________________
From: Rob S [[email protected]]
Sent: 20 April 2010 16:40
To: David Murphy
Cc: Richard Chiswell; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cookies - set on non-cached pages, read on all pages

We too operate a Varnish cache + JS for personalisation.  Our approach
is as follows:

Normal GET request for normal public pages: unset cookie, serve cached page.
Requests for login page, admin or pages that are more personal than can
be achieved with JS: Make varnish transparent.

This is pretty simple, and works well for us.  However, if you're not
able to identify the admin / login areas from the URL, then you might
find this quite hard.


Rob



David Murphy wrote:
Very helpful, thanks.

So the admin cookies are different from the simple JS cookies that provide the 'Hello 
<user>' value?

My understanding is that if a page is cached with unique cookie then there will 
be an object for every unique cookie value (tom, dick, harry etc) an as a 
result we'll get a low hit-rate. However, my guess is that I've misunderstood 
how this works, and that I'm wrong :)

Is it just the cookie name ('firstname') that is important rather than the 
cookie value ('Tom') when decided whether to unset the cookie on a varnish 
cached page?

Thanks, David
________________________________________
From: Richard Chiswell [[email protected]]
Sent: 20 April 2010 16:13
To: David Murphy
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cookies - set on non-cached pages, read on all pages

Hi David,

On 20/04/2010 16:08, David Murphy wrote:

Thanks Rich

When you say ignore  do you mean unset e.g.

sub vcl_recv {
    //snip
   unset req.http.cookie;
}


We do something like:
sub vcl_recv {
...
if (req.http.Cookie) {
      set req.http.Cookie = ";" req.http.Cookie;
      set req.http.Cookie = regsuball(req.http.Cookie, "; +", ";");
      set req.http.Cookie = regsuball(req.http.Cookie,
";(Cookies|WeWantTo|Keep)=", "; \1=");
      set req.http.Cookie = regsuball(req.http.Cookie, ";[^ ][^;]*", "");
      set req.http.Cookie = regsuball(req.http.Cookie, "^[; ]+|[; ]+$", "");
    if (req.http.Cookie == "") {
         remove req.http.Cookie;
     }
}
...
}

The Cookies|We... regular expression are for things like admin cookies
which we want to be set.

Rich

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