That you don't want Numpad keys to be recognized as such is fine by me, as long as all traits and most important all fields within the same trait behave the same way and that's not the case for now at least in the Layer trait. Consistency is the master word here. My point of view is that Numpad keys & numeral keys are not the same (hence the special but annoying Numlock function keys on notebook that no same person would use - the special key not notebook). But I may well be in the minority here. Fine. It's true that it would be a pain in the backside to use CTRL+ALT+NumPad1 on a notebook :-) If for simplicity's sake numpad keys are to be considered the same as numeral keys then fine, but in every fields of every trait and not a happy mix :-) By the way, CTRL+SHIFT+anything is a wrong idea when using Windows XP on a non US/EN operating system as it's the default key combo to switch between localized and US keyboard layout :-) (only when using the leftside SHIFT key that is) David ROBERT
_____ De : [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Thomas Russ Envoyé : mardi 1 août 2006 20:42 À : [email protected] Objet : Re: [vassalengine] Re: Layer activation & Numpad On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:09 AM, David ROBERT wrote: > Being in the IT business I can only agree with you that it behaves > differently from kb to kb, system to system. But here the problem is > with the same kb, same system, same Vassal version, same module. It's > just that the behavior is different from one part of a trait and > another. Not even different traits. Just between the field where on > put the command to activate a layer and the field to put the command > to reset/randomize a layer. > > I only want the Layer trait to be consistent with what other trait > are doing: treating a Numpad key as a numpad key. Hmm, these two paragraphs are somewhat in conflict. What happens when it works consistently on your system (being recognized as a keypad key), but when moved to someone else's system the key is treated as being just the number? If you also have a number key configured as a command, you would then have two commands inadvertently linked to the same key. I would prefer to see the keys on the number pad treated the same as the keys on the normal keyboard. This is not only less confusing (since the labels on the keys are the same), but it also means that the commands will work without extra hassles on notebook computers, which either don't have number pads or else require you to use an additional modifier key or mode setting to get a number pad. Neither of those solutions is ideal, especially since novices will not be up on how to activate the number pad. I personally am not a novice, and I love to use the number pad to enter numbers when I'm on a full keyboard, but I never use it on the laptop. Just too much trouble. (I also find it rather disconcerting when software treats number pad input differently from regular keyboard input. > > Can we hope for this in next patch/version of the code? > --- In vassalengine@ <mailto:vassalengine%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "Rodney Kinney" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I tested this layer and VASSAL activate/deactivate it when I > press the "1" >>> key or the Numpad-1 without making any difference betweent the > two keys >> >> >> Unfortunately, I don't think the Numpad behaves consistently across >> different keyboards. For example, the NumLock key changes what you > get when >> you press one of the numkeys. There might be a way to straighten > it all >> out, but I'm not surprised that it's confusing/inconsistent. >> >> rk >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vassalengine/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
