Hello everyone,

keep in mind that the current target of the VirtualBox package for macOS/ARM (which is an unsupported developer preview at the moment due to its early state) is actually running VMs with Intel x86 or x64 instruction set, initially through emulating one instruction after the other which means it has very modest performance (in less diplomatic wording one could call it painfully slow). Which implicitly does not need or benefit from Rosetta in any way.

Once the basics are working we hope to look into improving performance, which will be another significant project. The package for macOS/ARM will remain in unsupported developer preview state for the foreseeable future.

To spell it out even more clearly: the target is creating and running 'regular' Windows for x86/x64, and likewise Linux (and eventually Solaris, *BSD and other OSes) for x86/x64 in the VMs, i.e. what you might have done previously on macOS/Intel or other VirtualBox installs.

At the moment there is absolutely no way to run VMs using ARM code in VirtualBox.

Klaus

On 2022-10-25 19:20, Hugo Huijser via vbox-dev wrote:
Thanks Alexey,

Since we'd be running a VM on an ARM OS, we'd only be interested in translating our user space applications (which are mostly Inte applications), not kernel space code. Right now, we cannot use Rosetta within any VM unless we build the VM using the Apple Virtualization Framework. I believe that's what UTM solved in their latest version and was hoping VirtualBox would do something similar.



On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 1:21 PM Alexey Eromenko <al4...@gmail.com> wrote:

    supporting Rosetta will be very hard (or maybe impossible), because it
    works with user-space applications only. It cannot virtualize
    drivers/kernel-space code/VMs.
    Also Apple may drop Rosetta support like they did for PowerPC Rosetta
    3 years after Intel Macs were announced.

    On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 8:34 PM Hugo Huijser via vbox-dev
    <vbox-dev@virtualbox.org> wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > We have been using VirtualBox for quite some time, and are in
    the process of moving our Mac users to Macs with Apple silicon
    processors.
    > VirtualBox 7.0 is now supporting these new processors.
    >
    > My question is if there are plans to also support Rosetta in the
    future (similar to how UTM is supporting virtualization and
    Rosetta: https://docs.getutm.app/advanced/rosetta/)?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Hugo Huijser
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