On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Pablo Sanchez <pa...@blueoakdb.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I firmly believe that if someone isn't doing the proper job, they > should be let go. > > John A. Wallace stated the following about me: > > But since you have a tendency to throw that "admin" hat around > when you feel like it, and it is your sandbox here, well, > whatever. > > If you believe we should infuse new blood in admin'ing this list > (meaning, I should be replaced), please respond to this thread. All > you have to do to be counted is respond with `+1' > > If 58 people (10% of the list) or more believe I should turn in my > admin hat, I will. Let the counting being! :) > > The time limit is until the end of the weekend, Eastern time.
This is very unusual for a list like this. (But then, this is a somewhat unusual list in a few ways.) I've almost never seen anyone 'throw that "admin" hat around' at all, and accusations of same are usually just trolling. The Savoynet listowner has occasionally posted as such, and even more occasionally has put people onto moderation, but I can't think of any other examples. What does it mean to be an admin? I'm new here, so maybe things are different around VirtualBox, but normally an admin's job is to keep the underlying infrastructure active. That sometimes means kicking people off it, but more often means trying to get people onto it. Appointing co-admins is usually done with a specific job in mind; it's almost never a matter of power. (For instance, I'm admin of a MUD. Certain people on that MUD have the power to approve or deny new players' names. This power isn't granted as something for them to wield - it's to let them help out by doing the relatively mundane task of telling the computer what's obvious to a human.) In fact, most lists of this nature run as Charlieocracies [1], and appointing a replacement admin is more a matter of *finding* a replacement admin. So the bar for removing someone should be fairly high - some fairly egregious act of misconduct. More commonly, a Charlie steps down with relief when a replacement Charlie is found, and I'm not seeing anyone step up. This discussion would be aided somewhat by a clear statement of what a co-admin's job is on this list. Or, better still, by several statements, from any and all warring parties: What do YOU see the admins' job as? I'm -0 on the issue at hand, and that means I'm -1 on the removal of an admin. [1] A term borrowed from the Goon Show, and explained on my blog: http://rosuav.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/world-is-full-of-charlieocracies.html ChrisA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar _______________________________________________ VBox-users-community mailing list VBox-users-community@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vbox-users-community _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe: mailto:vbox-users-community-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe
