On 03/05/2010 11:51 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:38 PM, NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >> I see... so "Please reconsider enabling posting from nntp w/gmane.org." >> is lack of manners? Perhaps I should have put some additional emphasis >> on the word *Please*? >> > > I actually meant that you seem to want things your way. Even if you´re the > only one who seem to think that Gmane.org and NNTP is a must-have.
Sigh... I'll try this (politely) again. Innotek/Sun seem to have found useful, otherwise they wouldn't have put this list on their. Further, if you have a look at (what I presume to be updated soon): http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Mailing_lists you will find: <quote> * VirtualBox user discussions list This is the right place for end users to discuss VirtualBox, contribute suggestions, report problems (in particular if you are not sure whether or not to open a bug report), help others, etc. Please keep in mind that the list volume might become quite high. List address: http://www.virtualbox.org/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users Gmane interface: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.general </quote> > > I will consider enabling posting from NNTP but at the first sign of a SPAM > message coming from NNTP I´ll disable it. If you look at: <http://gmane.org/details.php?group=gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.general> and <http://gmane.org/details.php?group=gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.devel> you will find some stats for some spam runs. But that can occur with _any_ mailing list. Further, there is no indication that those spams came from gmane.org/nntp or simply a spammer that signed up for the list. I suppose that I could bother to go back through the archives to find out... gmane.org allows me to, currently, to go back to: > Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail > From: Achim Hasenmueller <hasenmuel...@innotek.de> > Newsgroups: gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.general > Subject: Re: Graphical User Interface > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:26:44 +0100 So the value of using nntp is not just convenient for keeping my email inbox from being overwhelmed, it also allows me to easily search on archived subjects, etc. This enables me to first search the list for answers that may have been previously answered. That way I may not need to post a question, but instead read a thread where the answer was already answered first. Perhaps you should actually give it a try before this list goes away? You might also have a look at: http://gmane.org/spam-control.php http://gmane.org/faq.php Additionally, gmane.org headers contain: Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.virtualbox.general/<msg#> to report spam, a user merely goes to the link and report it as spam & Lars & the gmane.org co. generally will take care of it immediately. That is considerably better than what tends to happen on many (most) direct mailing lists. BTW: do you have such a mechanism for your new sourceforge list? How does one report spam there? Again, Perhaps you should actually give it a try before this list goes away? > > FC > PS: When I hit Reply, GMail´s AJAX interface automagically places your email > address in the to: field and cc: the list address. So you´ll get this email > twice. Too bad. I hope this does not cause your PC to explode (joke, > joke!!). Just kidding. ... While you're at it, you might consider revising your reply line so that it doesn't include the email address of the person you are replying to in it (e.g., "NoOp <nonsnippedemailaddress> wrote:" if you are so concerned about spam et al. Anyway, the efforts by you and the others to put up a new list so quickly _is_ appreciated. No need to reply (to me directly or to this list), as I figure the subject has pretty well run it's course. _______________________________________________ vbox-users mailing list vbox-users@virtualbox.org http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users
