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From: "Gabriel Ambuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Einar Bordewich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:04 AM
Subject: TMDA support for vpopmail


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> Hello Einar,
>
> Tuesday, October 02, 2001, 10:37:16 PM, you wrote:
> > My intructions on TMDA together with vpopmail can be found on
> > http://tmda.bordewich.net
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> Hmm. I use neither qmailqueue nor qmailfilter nor smtp-auth, so I
> suppose
> this can be done easier by simply using qmail-tmda, no?

The qmailqueue patch is needed by qmail-qfilter. We have been running the
qmailqueue patch for a long time now, since qmailscanner (scan4virus as it
first was called) required qmailqueue patch at first. qmail-qfilter is a
stand-alone program that is taking qmail-queues place for filtering purpose
before it delivers to qmail-queue.

smtp-auth is needed by TMDA when you as a user relay e-mails through the
server, and require TMDAs address rewrites.
My mailer sends mails as [EMAIL PROTECTED], but when sending an e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], TMDA rewrites my address to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> A modest attempt to simplify things:
>
> As to creating .tmda/lists: I think it would make sense to patch TMDA
> that it simply creates it and fills it with empty files if it figures
> out they're missing.

TMDA ignores the files if they don't exists. TMDA creates the directory (if
~/.tmdarc exists) .tmda .tmda/pending, but not .tmda/lists. However if the
directory "lists" exists, it autocreates logfile and whitelist. The other
files is not needed, except when you need them for rewriting etc.

> Then we ignore Jason's symlinking orgy and do it KISS:
> .qmail-default gets to be
> | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-tmda
> | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

In a normal qmail solution, you don't use .qmail-default if you need to
bounce unknown recipients. With vpopmail we have vdelivermail which does the
bounce if the user don't exists. In this scenario TMDA with .qmail-default
is the perfect choice.

> and qmailadmin simply needs to invoke
> /usr/local/bin/tmda-keygen -b > [users maildir]/.tmdarc
> to activate TMDA.

Correct!

> Now editing the lists themselves in qmailadmin takes more work. Bill?


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