----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "vpopmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] smtp filter proxy

> Hi Jesse,
> > Will qmail-queue give me access to the RELAYCLIENT environment variable?
> It should, as it's a subsequent process of tcpserver -> qmail-smtpd. You
> should ask the author of the QMAILQUEUE patch; we're on the vpopmail
> list, and this is a non-issue here.

I'll ask him about it.

> > I'm talking about spam in my users inboxes.
> I don't see how your approach means anything for spam reaching your
> user's inboxes.
> > > 4) You do not prohibit anybody in the world to send mail to anybody in
> > > the world using one of your domains in his envelope sender address.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean by this.
> You said in your first post: "Implementing it would greatly reduce spam
> with forged headers claiming to be from one of my customers."
> Let's say I'm a spammer and send mail appearing to be from
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's clearly a spam mail "with forged
> headers claiming to be from one of [your] customers".
> If you patch your mail server, it doesn't mean that I couldn't continue
> doing so. It simply changes nothing. The spam in your customer's inboxes
> rarely comes from addresses that are forged to use a domain of you.

Jonas, forgive me, but I'm going to have to stop reading the rest of this email at 
this point because I simply MUST be missing

If I don't allow email to come into my network with forged FROM headers(or even forged 
envelope sender headers if they're relevent),
how would that NOT prevent the spam from reaching my user's inboxes??

Help me out with your logic there.


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