Thanks guys!

Regards,
Alan

On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Woods, David M. Dr. wrote:

>  
> We don’t have a problem with the license for the VCL software.
>  
> What we are finding is that the constraints on vendor software licenses for 
> products that we want to run on the VMs could significantly limit how useful 
> the VCL is in practice.  And it is not that the vendors are not understanding 
> the VCL, but rather telling us that the ownership (university owned or 
> student owned) of the machine being used to access the VMs factors into what 
> is allowed by our licenses.
>  
> Dave
>  
> From: Alan D. Cabrera [mailto:l...@toolazydogs.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Licensing aspects of a VCL project
>  
>  
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Woods, David M. Dr. wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
>   I've asked about this before, and didn't get a lot of response, but 
> licensing issues are turning out to be a major issue in our VCL pilot 
> project, so I would be interested in talking to anyone who can share 
> licensing details of software that is being provided to students in a VCL 
> environment.
>  
>   We are finding that software vendors understand the VCL concept.  In 
> general, licenses allow the software to run on university owned machines, so 
> it's legal to run in a VM.  Where some vendors have problems is providing 
> access to this software from student (or any machines not owned by the 
> university) machines.  Some vendors don't have a problem with this, but some 
> tell us that this is not allowed.  It doesn't make a lot of sense to me - 
> it's not a problem for a student to access the VCL from a university owned PC 
> in a lab, but is a problem for the student to access the VCL from a machine 
> owned by a student?
>  
>   The vendors would be happy to sell us additional licenses to allow us to 
> allow students to access the VCL from the student’s personal machine, but 
> this would add a lot to the cost of a full scale VCL implementation, so we 
> would like to learn more about licensing at other places that have 
> implemented a VCL to check with what vendors are telling us.  If you have a 
> licensing manager who would be willing to talk to our licensing manager, 
> please send  me contact info.
>  
> Do I understand correctly when I say that you do not have a licensing problem 
> installing the core VCL, VCL-2.1 as distributed from the Apache Software 
> Foundation, but have discovered licensing issues w/ subsequent vendor 
> specific add-ons?
>  
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Alan
>  

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