I am posting this on behalf of Greg Duhon

I have one more suggestion to add.  Verify that the networks are not
switched.  In other words, is the public network on the private
interface or private network on the public interface.  I can't tell
you how many times this one dinged us when we first started using VCL.

-Greg Duhon

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, James O'Dell <jod...@fullerton.edu> wrote:
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> If you can't ping your gateway, it's either a network problem,
> or a firewall problem.
>
> Try pinging the gateway, and then dumping your arp table
> ('arp -an'). If you see the mac address for the gateway in
> your arp table, it's probably a firewall issue. If the
> mac address isn't there, it's a network problem
>
> __Jim
>
>
> On 9/23/2011 9:27 AM, Huang,Lei wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions! For the image, it works fine when it
>> lauches on virtual hosts on existing nodes. The problem happens
>> when it runs on a new node. I assume the sshd works fine on the
>> image itself.
>>
>> I have set up the ssh key to allow the management node to log in
>> the node successfully. After I log into the new node running
>> VMware, I can see that my network eth0 and eth1 have private and
>> public ip address. However, I found that I cann't ping my gateway
>> from the node. Are there any settings I need to do?
>>
>> Thanks, Lei
>>
>> ________________________________________ From: Alexander Patterson
>> [alexander.patter...@csueastbay.edu] Sent: Friday, September 23,
>> 2011 11:08 AM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org Cc:
>> aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu Subject: Re: How to configure a new computing
>> node?
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Did you check su - Log in as root for the image you are working on
>> Password: Turn on sshd by typing /etc/init.d/sshd start Got to the
>> /etc/init.d/ then type chkconfig sshd on
>>
>> Have you made sure that you can ssh -i /etc/vcl/vcl.key <hostname
>> or IP address> ?
>>
>> I had this issue with ssh not kicking off before as well and it was
>> a issue with the image itself.
>>
>> Another helpfull command to check would be ssh -vv (IP address)
>>
>> Have you logged into your box running VMware to see if you are
>> getting a public and private ip address?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Huang,Lei <lhu...@pvamu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> Sorry for asking again. I suspect that the problem may be related
>>> to network setting. I don't understand why ssd on VM was not
>>> active. Is it possible that the IP address of VM is not correct?
>>> Any suggestions/hints would be very much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks, Lei ________________________________________ From:
>>> Huang,Lei [lhu...@pvamu.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011
>>> 10:36 AM To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org;
>>> aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu Subject: Re: How to configure a new
>>> computing node?
>>>
>>> Aaron,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your reply. I copied some log information as
>>> follows. It looks like the VM was started, but sshd on the VM was
>>> not active. The script looped and waited for half an hour and
>>> failed at the end. The image works fine on existing blades. I
>>> wonder if there is some configuration of VM server I didn't set
>>> correctly for the new node.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Lei
>>>
>>> ===================
>>>
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:27|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on CSB308: |14402|518:512|new| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x CSB308 'vmware-cmd
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx start' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21 23:31:31|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated
>>> for management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:31:31 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:36|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:31:36 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:40|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:check_connection(1765)|checking
>>> for connection by admin on vmguest-2, attempt 27 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:40|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on vmguest-2: |14122|517:511|inuse| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x vmguest-2 'netstat -an' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:40|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on vmguest-2: |14122|517:511|inuse| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x vmguest-2 'who' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:41|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14122|517:511|inuse| none 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:41|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on vmguest-2, returning (0, "none") 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:41|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:31:41 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:46|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:31:46 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:48|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14402|518:512|new| start() = 1 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:48|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on CSB308, returning (0, "start() = 1")
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:48|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(808)|started
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx on CSB308
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:31:48|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:insertloadlog(4710)|inserted
>>> computer=17, startvm, started vm on CSB308
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| /usr/bin/ssh -i /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p
>>> 22 -x CSB308 'vmware-cmd
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx getstate' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21 23:32:11|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated
>>> for management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:32:11 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:16|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:32:16 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:21|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:check_connection(1765)|checking
>>> for connection by admin on vmguest-2, attempt 29 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:21|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on vmguest-2: |14122|517:511|inuse| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x vmguest-2 'netstat -an' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21 23:32:21|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated
>>> for management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:32:21 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:21|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on vmguest-2: |14122|517:511|inuse| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x vmguest-2 'who' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:22|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14122|517:511|inuse| none 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:22|14122|517:511|inuse|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on vmguest-2, returning (0, "none") 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:26|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-21 23:32:26 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14402|518:512|new| getstate() = on 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on CSB308, returning (0, "getstate() = on")
>>> 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(831)|checking state of
>>> vm vmguest-10 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:insertloadlog(4710)|inserted
>>> computer=17, vmstage1, node has been turned on 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(838)|stage1 completed
>>> vm vmguest-10 has been turned on 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(839)|eth0MAC
>>> 00:50:56:1a:01:13 privateIPaddress 129.207.46.26 2011-09-21
>>> 23:32:28|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(848)|vmguest-10 ROUND 1
>>> checks loop 0 of 40
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| /usr/bin/ssh -i /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p
>>> 22 -x CSB308 'vmware-cmd
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx getstate' 2>&1
>>> 2011-09-22 00:05:41|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated
>>> for management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:05:41 2011-09-22
>>> 00:05:46|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:05:46 2011-09-22
>>> 00:05:51|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:05:51 2011-09-22
>>> 00:05:56|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:05:56 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:00|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14402|518:512|new| getstate() = on2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:00|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on CSB308, returning (0, "getstate() =
>>> on")2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:00|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(852)|rechecking state
>>> of vm vmguest-10
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:00|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(857)|vm vmguest-10
>>> reports on 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:00|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(868)|sshd is NOT active
>>> on vmguest-10 yet 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:01|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:01 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:06|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:06 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:10|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(848)|vmguest-10 ROUND 1
>>> checks loop 66 of 40 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:10|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6180)|executing
>>> SSH command on CSB308: |14402|518:512|new| /usr/bin/ssh -i
>>> /etc/vcl/vcl.key  -l root -p 22 -x CSB308 'vmware-cmd
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx getstate' 2>&12011-09-22
>>> 00:06:11|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:11 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:16|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:16 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:21|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:21 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:26|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:26 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:30|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6262)|run_ssh_command
>>>
>>>
> output:
>>> |14402|518:512|new| getstate() = on 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:30|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:run_ssh_command(6276)|SSH
>>> command executed on CSB308, returning (0, "getstate() = on")
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:30|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(852)|rechecking state
>>> of vm vmguest-10
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx
>>> 2011-09-22 00:06:30|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(857)|vm
>>> vmguest-10 reports on 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(868)|sshd is NOT active
>>> on vmguest-10 yet 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|3929|vcld:main(165)|lastcheckin time updated for
>>> management node 1: 2011-09-22 00:06:31 No recipient addresses
>>> found in header 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:mail(1348)|SUCCESS -- Sending
>>> mail To: , PROBLEM -- vmware.pm
>>>
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ---- CRITICAL ---- |14402|518:512|new|
>>> 2011-09-22 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|vmware.pm:load(967)|could
>>> not load
>>> /install/vmware_files/runningvms/CentOS5_5-base10-v0vmguest-10/CentOS5_5-ba
>>>
>>>
> se10-v0vmguest-10.vmx on vmguest-10 on host CSB308|14402|518:512|new| ( 0)
>>> utils.pm, notify (line: 737) |14402|518:512|new| (-1) vmware.pm,
>>> load (line: 967)|14402|518:512|new| (-2) new.pm, reload_image
>>> (line: 665) |14402|518:512|new| (-3) new.pm, process (line: 266)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-4) vcld, make_new_child (line: 594)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-5) vcld, main (line: 341)
>>>
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:insertloadlog(4710)|inserted
>>> computer=17, failed, could not load vmx on CSB308
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ---- WARNING ----|14402|518:512|new|
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|new.pm:reload_image(670)|CentOS5_5-base10-v0
>>>
>>>
> failed to load on vmguest-10, returning
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ( 0) utils.pm, notify (line: 737)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-1) new.pm, reload_image (line: 670)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-2) new.pm, process (line: 266)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-3) vcld, make_new_child (line: 594)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-4) vcld, main (line: 341)
>>>
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:insertloadlog(4710)|inserted
>>> computer=17, loadimagefailed, CentOS5_5-base10-v0 failed to load
>>> on vmguest-10
>>>
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ---- WARNING ---- |14402|518:512|new|
>>> 2011-09-22 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|new.pm:process(313)|failed
>>> to load vmguest-10 with CentOS5_5-base10-v0 |14402|518:512|new| (
>>> 0) utils.pm, notify (line: 737) |14402|518:512|new| (-1) new.pm,
>>> process (line: 313) |14402|518:512|new| (-2) vcld, make_new_child
>>> (line: 594) |14402|518:512|new| (-3) vcld, main (line: 341)
>>>
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|DataStructure.pm:get_computer_state_name(1946)|a
>>>
>>>
> ttempting to retrieve current state of computer vmguest-10 from the
>>> database 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|DataStructure.pm:get_computer_state_name(1977)|r
>>>
>>>
> etrieved current state of computer vmguest-10 from the database: reloading
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|DataStructure.pm:_automethod(697)|data
>>>
>>>
> structure updated:
>>> $self->request_data->{reservation}{512}{computer}{state}{name}
>>> |14402|518:512|new| computer_state_name = reloading No recipient
>>> addresses found in header 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:mail(1348)|SUCCESS -- Sending
>>> mail To: , PROBLEM -- State.pm
>>>
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ---- CRITICAL ---- |14402|518:512|new|
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:31|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(290)|reservation
>>>
>>>
> failed on vmguest-10: process failed after trying to load or make available
>>> |14402|518:512|new| ( 0) utils.pm, notify (line: 737)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-1) State.pm, reservation_failed (line:
>>> 290) |14402|518:512|new| (-2) new.pm, process (line: 316)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-3) vcld, make_new_child (line: 594)
>>> |14402|518:512|new| (-4) vcld, main (line: 341)
>>>
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:insertloadlog(4710)|inserted
>>> computer=17, failed, process failed after trying to load or make
>>> available 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(293)|inserted
>>>
>>>
> computerloadlog entry
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(301)|updated
>>> log ending value to 'failed', logid=451 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:update_computer_state(2228)|computer
>>>
>>>
> 17 state updated to: failed
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(312)|computer
>>>
>>>
> vmguest-10 (17) state set to failed
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:update_request_state(2186)|request
>>> 518 state updated to: failed, laststate to: new 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(325)|set
>>> request state to 'failed'/'new' 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:is_inblockrequest(6972)|zero
>>> rows were returned from database select 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(343)|vmguest-10
>>> is NOT in blockcomputers table 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:reservation_failed(346)|exiting
>>> 1 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(905)|destructor
>>> called, ref($self)=VCL::new 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:delete_computerloadlog_reservation(7551
>>>
>>>
> )|removing computerloadlog entries matching loadstate = begin
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|utils.pm:delete_computerloadlog_reservation(7598
>>>
>>>
> )|deleted rows from computerloadlog for reservation id=512
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(912)|removed
>>> computerloadlog rows with loadstate=begin for reservation
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(924)|number of
>>> database handles state process created: 1 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(933)|process has a
>>> database handle stored in $ENV{dbh}, attempting disconnect
>>> 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(935)|$ENV{dbh}:
>>> database disconnect successful 2011-09-22
>>> 00:06:32|14402|518:512|new|State.pm:DESTROY(949)|VCL::new process
>>> 14402 exiting 2011-09-22 00:06:32|3929|vcld:REAPER(744)|VCL
>>> process exited for reservation 512
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==========================
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/22/11 7:49 AM, "Aaron Peeler" <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Lei,
>>>>
>>>> Could you provide the log file for vcld related to this
>>>> reservation failure. It's default location is
>>>> /var/log/vcld.log
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Aaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Huang,Lei <lhu...@pvamu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear VCL experts, I am working on extending our VCL Cloud
>>>>> system for teaching purpose by adding some new computing
>>>>> nodes. The VCL version is 2.1 and we use VMware server 1.0 in
>>>>> each computing node. I have installed CentOS 5.0 and Vmware
>>>>> server 1.0 on a new blade, configured the network and VCL.
>>>>> However, I am stuck by the following failure when I tried to
>>>>> reserve an image. ========================== State Est/Act
>>>>> TimeTotal Timeconfirming image exists(22) 0:04/0:24 0:24
>>>>> starting load process(40) 0:06/2:03 2:27 creating
>>>>> configuration file(28) 0:02/1:01 3:28 starting virtual
>>>>> machine(48) 0:03/0:42 4:10 machine booting(46) 1:08/34:43
>>>>> 38:53 failed: could not load vmx on CSB308
>>>>> ==================== Does anybody know what's wrong on my
>>>>> setup? It takes very long time to boot an image, but failed
>>>>> at the end. I am wondering if there is any instruction of how
>>>>> to install a computing node that I can follow. Thanks a lot
>>>>> in advance. Regards, Lei Huang (Ph.D.) Assistant Professor
>>>>> Computer Science Department Prairie View A&M University SR
>>>>> Collins Room 314, MailStop: 2515, Prairie View, TX 77446
>>>>> Phone: (936)261-9878       Fax: (936)261-9866
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Aaron Peeler Program Manager Virtual Computing Lab NC State
>>>> University
>>>>
>>>> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business
>>>> which are sent to or received by this account are subject to
>>>> the NC Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third
>>>> parties.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Thanks, Alex  Patterson User Support Services Operating System
>> Analyst California State University, East Bay
>
>
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> Jim O'Dell
> Network Analyst
> California State University Fullerton
> Email: jod...@fullerton.edu
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