On 02.04.2011 11:33, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, VDR User wrote:

Ignoring remotes that don't follow the RGYB scheme doesn't make them
any less 'tv oriented' or go away. I can't imagine it's much of a
leap to make the colored button position customizable and is probably
something that's better to have then not. What good argument against
allowing the user to customize the layout according to their actual
remote button layout could there be? None that I can think of. I'd
guess Klaus will consider any patches submitted to him which don't
cause problems. Regardless, users always have the option to patch the
feature in if it doesn't become a part of VDR's core.

The RGYB color enumeration is defined in the video teletext standard and every 
TV/STB set implementing the teletext feature DOES use the mentioned color 
button order. I guess the teletext is used mainly in Europe, so there might be 
different conventions elsewhere, but the VDR is a STB for DVB
standard that documents the teletext too.

IMO, you really should switch the OSD button colors in skin plugins instead of patching 
the core VDR. There will be some glitches with learning the remotes, but these can be 
fixed with some extra documentation (Press 'Red/leftmost color' button). These remotes 
with "wrong" color button orders are
really a small minority here mainly targeted to some odd mediacenters or PS3 - 
at least here in the northern Europe.

I could imagine accepting a patch that centralizes handling
the sequence in which the color buttons are displayed, and
offers a standard interface to skin plugins that allows
them to arrange the color buttons accordingly.

What I don't want to change is the actual functionality
of the color buttons, meaning, for instance, the red button
will always have the same functionality, no matter what sequence the
remote control uses. I haven't looked into the original
patch yet, so I can't say whether it only handles the
display sequence or also messes with the functionality.
At any rate, a patch that changes the functionality is
unacceptable for me.


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