On 28/01/12 04:50, Itamar Heim wrote:
> top posting since there was a long thread on this anyway.
> some questions/comments:
> 
> 1. about the CIDs - it sounds like the engine needs to persist this
> info, so it can resume normally in case of a failure/restart (this is
> different than today, when the persisted info is the connection details,
> rather than some generated identifier)?

This info should be persisted in the engine, in addition to the
connection details.

> 
> 2. sounds like the engine needs to block in certain cases after a
> manageConnection to make sure it is there and alive before doing an
> operation.
> this means now engine has to check a host has all relevant connections
> online before choosing it as a target for live migration even for a
> regular VM (all disks on a storage domain).

With the current flow it is not needed for 'regular VM'.
The engine currently do not monitor the storage domain's connections on
a periodic basis because the storage domain status represents the
availability of the domain.


> worse/uglier (well, imho), in case of a disk based on a direct LUN, the
> engine needs to actively connect the target host, poll till it's up, and
> only then live migrate (would be much nicer if vdsm migration protocol
> would have taken care of this manageConnection call (preserving the CID?)
> 
> 3. in unmanageStorageServer(connectionID) below you finish with
> "Returns:
> Success code if VDSM was able to unmanage the connection.
> It will return an error if the CID is not registered with VDSM.
> Disconnect failures are not reported. Active unmanaged connections can
> be tracked with getStorageServerList()"
> 
> it is not clear if vdsm will retry to disconnect, and how races between
> those retries and new manage connection requests will be handled.
> if the connection only becomes unmanaged, there is no way to track and
> clean it up (engine is not supposed to touch the unmanaged connections)
> 
> 4. I don't think we handle this today, but while we are planning for the
> future - what if the host needs one of the connections to exist
> regardless of engine for another need (say it does boot from network
> from same iscsi target - this is an unmanaged connection which you will
> disconnect based on the CID refcount concept).
> i.e., what happens if the host has an unmanaged connection, which
> becomes a managed one.
> solving this probably means when adding a connection, need to add an
> unmanaged_existed_before CID for refcount?
> 
> 
> On 01/23/2012 11:54 PM, Saggi Mizrahi wrote:
>> I have begun work at changing how API clients can control storage
>> connections when interacting with VDSM.
>>
>> Currently there are 2 API calls:
>> connectStorageServer() - Will connect to the storage target if the
>> host is not already connected to it.
>> disconnectStorageServer() - Will disconnect from the storage target if
>> the host is connected to it.
>>
>> This API is very simple but is inappropriate when multiple clients and
>> flows try to access the same storage.
>>
>> This is currently solved by trying to synchronize things inside rhevm.
>> This is hard and convoluted. It also brings out issues with other
>> clients using the VDSM API.
>>
>> Another problem is error recovery. Currently ovirt-engine(OE) has no
>> way of monitoring the connections on all the hosts an if a connection
>> disappears it's OE's responsibility to reconnect.
>>
>> I suggest a different concept where VDSM 'manages' the connections.
>> VDSM receives a manage request with the connection information and
>> from that point forward VDSM will try to keep this connection alive.
>> If the connection fails VDSM will automatically try and recover.
>>
>> Every manage request will also have a connection ID(CID). This CID
>> will be used when the same client asks to unamange the connection.
>> When multiple requests for manage are received to the same connection
>> they all have to have their own unique CID. By internally mapping CIDs
>> to actual connections VDSM can properly disconnect when no CID is
>> addressing the connection. This allows each client and even each flow
>> to have it's own CID effectively eliminating connect\disconnect races.
>>
>> The change from (dis)connect to (un)manage also changes the semantics
>> of the calls significantly.
>> Whereas connectStorageServer would have returned when the storage is
>> either connected or failed to connect, manageStorageServer will return
>> once VDSM registered the CID. This means that the connection might not
>> be active immediately as the VDSM tries to connect. The connection
>> might remain down for a long time if the storage target is down or is
>> having issues.
>>
>> This allows for VDSM to receive the manage request even if the storage
>> is having issues and recover as soon as it's operational without user
>> intervention.
>>
>> In order for the client to query the current state of the connections
>> I propose getStorageConnectionList(). This will return a mapping of
>> CID to connection status. The status contains the connection info
>> (excluding credentials), whether the connection is active, whether the
>> connection is managed (unamanged connection are returned with
>> transient IDs), and, if the connection is down, the last error
>> information.
>>
>> The same actual connection can return multiple times, once for each CID.
>>
>> For cases where an operation requires a connection to be active a user
>> can poll the status of the CID. The user can then choose to poll for a
>> certain amount of time or until an error appears in the error field of
>> the status. This will give you either a timeout or a "try once"
>> semantic depending on the flows needs.
>>
>> All connections that have been managed persist VDSM restart and will
>> be managed until a corresponding unmanage command has been issued.
>>
>> There is no concept of temporary connections as "temporary" is flow
>> dependent and VDSM can't accommodate all interpretation of
>> "temporary". An ad-hoc mechanism can be build using the CID field. For
>> instance a client can manage a connection with "ENGINE_FLOW101_CON1".
>> If the flow got interrupted the client can clean all IDs with certain
>> flow IDs.
>>
>> I think this API gives safety, robustness, and implementation freedom.
>>
>>
>> Nitty Gritty:
>>
>> manageStorageServer
>> ===================
>> Synopsis:
>> manageStorageServer(uri, connectionID):
>>
>> Parameters:
>> uri - a uri pointing to a storage target (eg: nfs://server:export,
>> iscsi://host/iqn;portal=1)
>> connectionID - string with any char except "/".
>>
>> Description:
>> Tells VDSM to start managing the connection. From this moment on VDSM
>> will try and have the connection available when needed. VDSM will
>> monitor the connection and will automatically reconnect on failure.
>> Returns:
>> Success code if VDSM was able to manage the connection.
>> It usually just verifies that the arguments are sane and that the CID
>> is not already in use.
>> This doesn't mean the host is connected.
>> ----
>> unmanageStorageServer
>> =====================
>> Synopsis:
>> unmanageStorageServer(connectionID):
>>
>> Parameters:
>> connectionID - string with any char except "/".
>>
>> Descriptions:
>> Tells VDSM to stop managing the connection. VDSM will try and
>> disconnect for the storage target if this is the last CID referencing
>> the storage connection.
>>
>> Returns:
>> Success code if VDSM was able to unmanage the connection.
>> It will return an error if the CID is not registered with VDSM.
>> Disconnect failures are not reported. Active unmanaged connections can
>> be tracked with getStorageServerList()
>> ----
>> getStorageServerList
>> ====================
>> Synopsis:
>> getStorageServerList()
>>
>> Description:
>> Will return list of all managed and unmanaged connections. Unmanaged
>> connections have temporary IDs and are not guaranteed to be consistent
>> across calls.
>>
>> Results:VDSM was able to manage the connection.
>> It usually just verifies that the arguments are sane and that the CID
>> is not already in use.
>> This doesn't mean the host is connected.
>> ----
>> unmanageStorageServer
>> =====================
>> Synopsis:
>> unmanageStorageServer(connectionID):
>>
>> Parameters:
>> connectionID - string with any char except "/".
>>
>> Descriptions:
>> Tells VDSM to stop managing the connection. VDSM will try and
>> disconnect for the storage target if this is the last CID referencing
>> the storage connection.
>>
>> Returns:
>> Success code if VDSM was able to unmanage the connection.
>> It will return an error if the CID is not registered with VDSM.
>> Disconnect failures are not reported. Active unmanaged connections can
>> be tracked with getStorageServerList()
>> ----
>> getStorageServerList
>> ====================
>> Synopsis:
>> getStorageServerList()
>>
>> Description:
>> Will return list of all managed and unmanaged connections. Unmanaged
>> connections have temporary IDs and are not guaranteed to be consistent
>> across calls.
>>
>> Results:
>> A mapping between CIDs and the status.
>> example return value (Actual key names may differ)
>>
>> {'conA': {'connected': True, 'managed': True, 'lastError': 0,
>> 'connectionInfo': {
>>      'remotePath': 'server:/export
>>      'retrans': 3
>>      'version': 4
>>      }}
>>   'iscsi_session_34': {'connected': False, 'managed': False,
>> 'lastError': 339, 'connectionIfno': {
>>      'hostname': 'dandylopn'
>>      'portal': 1}}
>> }
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