----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "VDSM 
> Project Development"
> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:45:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> 
> On 10/10/2013 07:43 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>
> >> Cc: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "VDSM
> >> Project Development"
> >> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:39:35 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> >>
> >> On 10/10/2013 07:38 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> >>>> To: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "VDSM Project Development"
> >>>> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:37:14 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/10/2013 05:38 PM, Yaniv Bronheim wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> >>>>>> To: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: "VDSM Project Development" <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>,
> >>>>>> "arch"
> >>>>>> <a...@ovirt.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:24:40 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/10/2013 04:32 PM, Yaniv Bronheim wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hey Everybody,
> >>>>>>> FYI, Recently we merged a fix that changes the way vdsmd starts.
> >>>>>>> Before
> >>>>>>> that "service vdsmd start" command performed its main logic in
> >>>>>>> addition
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> related services manipulation, as configure libvirt service and
> >>>>>>> restart
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> for example.
> >>>>>>> Now we are trying to avoid that and only alert the user if restart or
> >>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>> operations on related services are required.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So now when you perform vdsmd start after clear installation you will
> >>>>>>> see:
> >>>>>>> ~$ sudo service vdsmd restart
> >>>>>>> Shutting down vdsm daemon:
> >>>>>>> vdsm watchdog stop                                         [  OK  ]
> >>>>>>> vdsm: not running                                          [FAILED]
> >>>>>>> vdsm: Running run_final_hooks
> >>>>>>> vdsm stop                                                  [  OK  ]
> >>>>>>> supervdsm start                                            [  OK  ]
> >>>>>>> vdsm: Running run_init_hooks
> >>>>>>> vdsm: Running gencerts
> >>>>>>> hostname: Unknown host
> >>>>>>> vdsm: Running check_libvirt_configure
> >>>>>>> libvirt is not configured for vdsm yet
> >>>>>>> Perform 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure' before starting vdsmd
> >>>>>>> vdsm: failed to execute check_libvirt_configure, error code 1
> >>>>>>> vdsm start                                                 [FAILED]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This asks you to run "vdsm-tool libvirt-configure"
> >>>>>>> After running it you should see:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ~$ sudo vdsm-tool libvirt-configure
> >>>>>>> Stopping libvirtd daemon: [  OK  ]
> >>>>>>> libvirt is not configured for vdsm yet
> >>>>>>> Reconfiguration of libvirt is done.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To start working with the new configuration, execute:
> >>>>>>> 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure-services-restart'
> >>>>>>> This will manage restarting of the following services:
> >>>>>>> libvirtd, supervdsmd
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After performing: 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure-services-restart' you
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> ready to start vdsmd again as usual.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> All those vdsm-tool commands require root privileges, otherwise it'll
> >>>>>>> alert
> >>>>>>> and stop the operation.
> >>>>>>> Over systemd the errors\output can be watched in /var/log/messages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Yaniv Bronhaim.
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Arch mailing list
> >>>>>>> a...@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> how will this affect the following use cases:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. i added a new host to the system via the engine.
> >>>>>> at the end of the installation i expect the host to work without admin
> >>>>>> having to do any operation on the host.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. i update a host to latest vdsm version via the engine.
> >>>>>> at the end of the update i expect the host to be updated without admin
> >>>>>> having to do any operation on the host
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course it shouldn't effect any of the deploy process. If using the
> >>>>> host-deploy, the host-deploy process should take care of stopping,
> >>>>> starting and other managing that can be required before starting vdsmd,
> >>>>> and it is taking care of.
> >>>>> The prints I copied above are relevant only if user tries to install
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> start vdsmd manually
> >>>>
> >>>> great. so how does backward compatibility work? i have a 3.2 engine, and
> >>>> i deploy latest vdsm due to some bug fixes.
> >>>> (i.e., i didn't get new host-deploy)
> >>>
> >>> This was already supported in last iteration.
> >>>
> >>> The init.d and systemd script support reconfigure verb that is executed
> >>> ever since vdsm-bootstrap, these are kept for backward compatibility.
> >>
> >> so what happens to 3.2 engine with this new vdsm, without this patch?
> >> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/20102
> >
> > this patch is just adjustment to whatever yaniv plans now.
> >
> > up until now host-deploy tried to execute vdsm-tool libvirt-configure and
> > if fails it tries the old way as I described above.
> >
> > now host-deploy will be adjusted to call a single verb to configure
> > whatever need to be configured by vdsm.
> 
> so what happens if the vdsm on the host is an older vdsm?

I don't follow...
"""
> > up until now host-deploy tried to execute vdsm-tool libvirt-configure and
> > if fails it tries the old way as I described above.
"""

> 
> >
> > waiting for interface of vdsm-tool to stabilize before attempting to fix.
> >
> > 3.2, 3.1, 3.0 uses the old method of reconfigure, it does not use vdsm
> > tool.
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> 
> 
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