Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr.
> >
> > Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> >
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > > But it does not work because of that wrapper object. I only went
> > > as far as to find out that it was some private hard-to-identify
> > > object - I could not see its members in the debugger- but I
> > > still did not trace the problem to its foundation. That is what
> > > I want to do now.
> >
> > I know the problem - it was a decision that I had to make a while ago,
> > and did to ensure backwards compatibility. As time has shown, it's more
> > important to go the other way. We've been through this before.
>
> Again, give me some pointers to the source code please. I would like to
> bettern understand this.
>
> > Later today, I'll post a summary and change the code in HEAD, so you can
> > give it a whirl.
>
> Thanks man.
>
> > > BTW, I tried to see the wrapper members because I was trying to
> > > find how to get the wrapped object. Since the debugger could not
> > > even get the class from the object, I kept not knowing where to
> > > start. Is it some anonymous inner class or something like that?
> > >
> > > Now, I think that
> > > 1. The #if() directive should resolve a reference that returns
> > > null to as being false;
> > > 2. Macros should unwrap arguments before passing them to methods
> > > called inside themselves.
> > >
> > > While 2 looks clear to me, but maybe you think different about 1.
> > > Anyway, I think 1 is the most intuitive way to go.
> > >
> >
> > The issue with 1) is that #if() should behave correctly in cases like
> > this. 2), no, because no one should know.
>
> Sorry, but
> - I do not understand if you agree or not with 1).
> - I do not understand at all what you mean about 2).
>
> Could you just elaborate a little bit?
I am dead out of time this a.m., but ye s- I agree with 1) but I have a
difference in interpretation of causality - the #if() directive
shouldn't have to do anything special internally - it should just work
as expected.
Never mind on 2.
geir
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