On 2/13/02 6:45 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm just giving the gang a heads-up on what I will be doing, Geir.

Thanks, Ted.  I consider myself one of the gang.

> 
> There is now and will be a request-scope API object in Struts Nightly
> Build and Struts 1.1. I will be building on that to provide the
> functionality first outlined in the ContextHelper, and demonstrated
> here:
> 
> http://husted.com/struts/resources/velservlet.zip
> 
> Like the ContextHelper, the Struts 1.1 API object will provide methods
> that presentation layer devices, like Velocity and the JSTL can call
> directly. I may also provide a helper servlet or Action that will make
> this same functionality available to Struts 1.0.x.
> 
> I just want to give Gabriel and Nathan the opportunity to leverage what
> Struts will be providing. If they want to contribute to the development
> of this object, even better. If they want to roll their own ... well
> it's their time to volunteer, and I will happily promote anything they
> release, as I have always done with any Struts-related component.
> 
> http://husted.com/struts/resources.htm
> 
> I'm getting ready to make some changes to the Struts Web site to
> highlight the changes for the upcoming Struts 1.1 release, and will be
> able to include more on the web site about using Velocity with Struts. I
> think Velocity will be very useful to a great number of Struts
> developers, and want do what I can to ensure that the development is
> forward-looking and remains compatible with future releases.
> 

I guess I have two questions :

1) Why isn't this stuff on the jakarta struts site, in a sandbox or contrib
area?

2) It sounds to me like you are declaring what you are going to do - your
mind is made up.

Gabriel was pretty successful, and I assume Nathan as well, in beginning
from their own starting point and achieving a solution.  I am interested in
looking at Nathans as he wasn't a struts or JSP guy - he was a Velocity user
coming at it from the viewpoint of just needing the functionality of the
controller and the resources it exposed.

I assume neither depended upon the One True Tool presented by the controller
to do it since there is none.  The fact that they could do it that way is a
pretty strong endorsement of what Struts does now, and maybe something could
be taken from that as you change it.

I am also worried that you are going to close the door to unconventional
view layers if you nail down the resource contract in a tool provided by
yourself...

geir

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr.                                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System and Software Consulting
"He who throws mud only loses ground." - Fat Albert


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