Matt,

Thanks for the note - appreciate the pragmatic comment.

Are there any other changes or new capabilities you'd find useful in a data
resource loader?

Best,
WILL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Raible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Velocity Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Create a DataSourceResourceLoader that can be wired to the
datasource with IoC


> I don't care how things are done, but Will's patch (and a subsequent
> modification in Spring) made this DataSource-use-outside-of-JNDI work
> quite nicely.  I don't car as much about architecture as you guys - I
> just want to get something that works.
>
> Matt
>
> On Apr 29, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Will Glass-Husain wrote:
>
> > Hi Geir,
> >
> > Not sure what your specific objection is.  My proposed patch adds some
> > flexibility to the resource loaders by allowing an instance to be
> > passed in
> > instead of just the class name.  There's already a precedent for this
> > (the
> > loggers).  And it's entirely backwards compatible.  With the addition
> > of a
> > setter to the DataSourceResourceLoader it solves the problem.  (Matt's
> > tested and applied the patch:, although I warned him it was at his own
> > risk).
> >
> > I'm open to your suggested alternative (have the Spring developer use
> > the
> > Application attributes to pass the DataSource to a custom loader) but
> > I'm
> > not familiar enough with Spring to know if this is feasible.  As we'd
> > framed
> > it earlier, the request is to configure the resource loader and
> > Velocity
> > with a live DataSource by using with either Property settings or
> > bean-type
> > setters.   This would be a different route.  Matt, can you weigh in on
> > Geir's idea?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > WILL
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Velocity Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Create a DataSourceResourceLoader that can be wired to the
> > datasource with IoC
> >
> >
> >> I'm a little suspicious, as we have a facility for an application to
> >> pass whatever they want to down into components - application
> >> attributes.  The original driving case was (I think) to send something
> >> to a loader.
> >>
> >> For example, it's how the webapp resource loader gets and uses the
> >> servlet context.
> >>
> >> So I'd rather see us fix the DatasourceResourceLoader....
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to address this issue.  Any comments on my suggested
> >>> approach?
> >>> Specifically, I thought we could allow RuntimeInstance to take a live
> >>> instance of a resource loader as a property as an alternative to a
> >>> class
> >>> name.  I've recently discovered that Velocity accepts loggers passed
> >>> in this
> >>> way.
> >>>
> >>> from: EventHandlingTestCase.java
> >>>
> >>>   Velocity.setProperty(Velocity.RUNTIME_LOG_LOGSYSTEM, this );
> >>>   Velocity.init();
> >>>
> >>> The basic idea is that the developer instantiates a resource loader,
> >>> configures it with a JNDI name and then passes it to Velocity.
> >>>
> >>> Inversion of Control and Spring are hot topics now in the Java / open
> >>> source
> >>> community, I think it'd be nice to modify the tool to be compatible.
> >>> Matt
> >>> Raible's an ardent Spring user, so we can get immediate feedback.
> >>>
> >>> Any comments or suggestions before I write this patch?
> >>>
> >>> WILLL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
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> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:54 PM
> >>> Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 28611] New: - Create a
> >>> DataSourceResourceLoader
> >>> that can be wired to the datasource with IoC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG
> >>>> RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT
> >>>> <http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28611>.
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> >>>>
> >>>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28611
> >>>>
> >>>> Create a DataSourceResourceLoader that can be wired to the
> >>>> datasource
> >>>> with
> >>> IoC
> >>>>
> >>>>            Summary: Create a DataSourceResourceLoader that can be
> >>>> wired to
> >>>>                     the datasource with IoC
> >>>>            Product: Velocity
> >>>>            Version: 1.4
> >>>>           Platform: Other
> >>>>         OS/Version: Other
> >>>>             Status: NEW
> >>>>           Severity: Enhancement
> >>>>           Priority: Other
> >>>>          Component: Source
> >>>>         AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>         ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to create a ResourceLoader similar to
> >>>> DataSourceResourceLoader,
> >>> except that I'd like to set
> >>>> the DataSource via IoC (in Spring).  The main reason for this is so
> >>>> my
> >>> database-loading of templates
> >>>> does not depend on a JNDI connection.
> >>>>
> >>>> The main problem is how to manage a ResourceLoader with Spring and
> >>>> then
> >>> set it declaratively on its
> >>>> VelocityEngine - rather than via properties.
> >>>>
> >>>> <suggested patch from Will Glass-Husain>
> >>>> Does this mean that you'd need to pass in an instance of a resource
> >>> manager
> >>>> (initialized with the datasource) to VelocityEngine, rather than
> >>>> just
> >>>> set
> >>>> the class name as a property? (MR - Yes)
> >>>>
> >>>> As I understand the source code, this doesn't seem possible.  But I
> >>>> think
> >>> a
> >>>> patch wouldn't be difficult.  (a change to
> >>>> RuntimeInstance.initializeResourceManager) to look for an instance
> >>>> of
> >>>> the
> >>>> class as well as the class name.  Something similar to
> >>>> LogManager.createLogSystem which accepts as a property the class
> >>>> name
> >>>> of a
> >>>> class that implements LogSystem, or an instance of the class itself.
> >>>> </suggested patch>
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> >> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
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