Broken collarbone as of Sunday, so I'll be quick/short... typing is mosly
1-handed at the moment.

Nathan said these things:
> i agree that Anakia/Texen probably ought to be 
> moved out of the core, but i just don't want them in VelocityTools. :)

> c'mon. i'm not saying it's not a tool in the general sense of 
> the term.  if you can explain to me how Anakia is similar in 
> function/use/purpose to the contents of the VelocityTools project, i'll
listen. 

> i still haven't heard you justify their inclusion with 
> something better than the vague semantics of the word "tool."  
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I'm just saying that the website already lumps those "other things" into a
Tools category, but in the distro they are in CORE--  not Tools, not
VelocityTools, not "Other things Nathan doesn't want in Tools because it's
not a "Velocity Tool"... well, or it's not a Servlet which is okay...
certainly not a "tool" like "Struts Message Tool" is a "tool", but it can
use a toolbox, so it's okay... especially cuz' Nathan likes servlets.".
<grin> 

I don't see how a half dozen Anakia classes will ever live on their own as
jakarta-velocity-anakia. And in 3 years, I haven't seen those other things
change much at all. I'd be willing to help move/maintain (fwiw) those other
things as sub-areas of the jakarta-velocity-tools project out of the desire
just to get them out of core, and make things seem a bit more logical. 

The broad semantics of the word "tool" is exactly the reason why I can
easily see these things which are not CORE going into  Velocity Tools, that
and the indisputable fact that somebody at some time filed them into a
"Tools" category on the website, so I'm not the first idiot to come up with
the idea.

But I'm not interested in this little argument... so that stuff will
probably live on cluttering up the core, because no better alternative has
been given to putting them into jakarta-velocity-tools. 

Ah well, I'm going to be forced to use JSTL instead of Velocity soon anyhow.
;-)

Cheers,
Tim


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