Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>On Nov 30, 2004, at 8:23 AM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
[...]
>> I tried to get exactly that point across (Project X does rely on
>> Version n of Project Y, not the HEAD) but failed. Maybe you are more
>> successful...
>This has been the basic issue since Gump was started. It's good at
>showing when someone breaks an API contract, such as this case. What
>it can't seem to handle is the legitimate case of API breakage in major
>revisioning.
Yep.
>If log4j was doing this going from 1.2.9 to 2.0, then I'd probably have
>to wave off any complaints. But 1.2.9 to 1.3? sorry - I can't see why
>they are doing this, as they have historically been so good about
>smooth, manageable changes in the log4j API.
>This further supports my belief that you always want to minimize
>dependencies.
This is why I tried to lobby for commons-logging here a while
ago. Using commons-logging, this change would have been invisible
because c-l separates the library from the logging API.
>My strategy here is to try and get them to at least give us a
>deprecated o.a.l.RFA for 1.3.0 so we can switch to a released version,
>and then immediately we switch to using the RFA in the rolling package.
+1
>The other option is to play classpath wack-a-mole and just no have any
>hard imports, do everything via classloader discovery, and wait until
>this is over...
/me barfs. Please not. In Turbine, we used commons-logging with great
success. All the log4j stuff disappeared into the log4j.properties
file. Ok, you would have to adjust this.
Regards
Henning
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