Hi,

I'd argue that SimplePool is a utility class and not part of the public API
(so it's ok to change this).  Have to draw the line somewhere - otherwise we
can never change anything.  Anyone object?

I'm not really following the problem with factories -- I'll wait to see
until I see some code to comment on this.

Llewellyn Falco has a Eclipse code formatting file.  I had a copy but my
computer is in the shop. Llewellyn are you out there?

Best, WILL


>
> a) I realize that someone might have used SimplePool in their app, so
> renaming the impl and making SimplePool an interface would create an
> upgrade problem.  so creating new classes.
> b) the class is SimplePool and the logic and field is called
> parserPool.  I decided the new classes should use parser pool in the
> names.
> c) pools usually operate with a factory concept, which is hard with
> how the current code is structured (the pool owner populates and
> instantiates extra instances if there's a problem).  I have to
> simulate the factory concept with a callback interface, or something
> like that, which is odd to pass since velocity you usually just
> initialize with the runtimeservices.
> d) code formatting... I don't suppose anyone has the Eclipse code
> formatting rules?  I'm trying to follow conventions as much as
> possible, but if someone can share that, that would be very helpful.
> e) I'll have the commons pool impl available as well, though I doubt
> that would get added into the engine branch.  Where do you think we
> should stick that?
>
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> On 3/2/06, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>absolutely. I think for most cases the current implementation is
sufficient,
>>but for your high-rate of create/destroy of runtime instances I can see
why
>>this might be a problem.
>>
>>WILL
>>
>>On 3/1/06, Serge Knystautas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>I did some memory profiling, and for each runtime instance, by default
>>>it creates 20 parsers.  According to yourkit, each parser uses just
>>>over 100kb heap space, so each runtime instance is costing me 2mb heap
>>>space.
>>>
>>>I can simply reduce the # of parsers, but the problem is that simple
>>>pool is a very, very primitive pool implementation... it holds a
>>>constant number parsers and if you exceed, it simply creates and
>>>disposes a parser (ballpark of 1ms per parser instantiation in my
>>>benchmarks).
>>>
>>>I'd like to convert simplepool to an interface and then make the
>>>current behavior an impl so that you could swap in something like
>>>commons pool.  Is there interest in such a patch?
>>>
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>>>Serge Knystautas
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>>>p. 301.656.5501
>>>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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