Yeah, I thought it looked kind of wrong, but I sort of robotically copied .jar files from velocity-1.4 and velocity-tools-1.1 and only removed the very obvious (e.g. velocity-tools includes a velocity-dep-1.3.1.jar, but I already had a velocity-1.4 ... which, now that I think about it, removing the older for the newer could also cause problems)

So I threw them in there waiting to see if things would run or break.  :)

Ignorance is living on the edge  -ryan

My next step is to do my homework on dependencies! Would it be inappropriate for velocity-tools to include exactly what's needed for tomcat ... nothing more, nothing less? (And to specify the version of tomcat they assume the user has installed) It seems like the project might be taking a servlet-container-neutral stance? Perhaps that's by design.

Thank you both for the response.



Mike Curwen wrote:
I'm not familiar with your enviro, but I think your listing of shared/lib
jar files is a bit large.

Specifically, servlet.jar doesn't belong, and I'm surprised it's not causing
problems. And commons-logging.jar is asking for trouble (though I admit,
that's with TC5.0.x, and 5.5 is a different beast).  And unless something
has changed in Velocity, it's not a good idea to be sharing velocity jars
either.

As for memory, the JVM defaults are quite small, so it's not *really* a
Tomcat problem, so much as it's a "JVM Defaults" problem.





-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Baughman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Velocity Users List
Subject: Re: question on velocity-tools-1.1 examples :: simple.war



This is a Tomcat problem. I find if there are too many web applications under tomcat, at some point I get an out of memory error. My guess is that this could be the one-more-application that broke the camel's back.


Barbara Baughman
X2157

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ryan M. Waters wrote:


I've read through the list (and online/offline documentation) in an effort to rule out a lazy question, so I hope that this

particular one


hasn't been asked before.

What I'm trying to do is get the velocity-tools simple.war example application to work. I'm running a fresh install of Tomcat 5.5 on Windows (bleh) XP, velocity 1.4 and velocity-tools-1.1

Tomcat runs fine. Also, I can successfully drop in the layout.war example application and it runs fine, too(!). When I drop in simple.war, tomcat wigs with the following:

<from tomcat's stdout_20050304.log>
--------------------------------------------------------------
Mar 4, 2005 2:39:06 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployWAR
INFO: Deploying web application archive simple.war
Mar 4, 2005 2:39:08 PM

org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployWAR

SEVERE: Error deploying web application archive simple.war
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
--------------------------------------------------------------

For more information on my environment, I have the following .jar files, copied from velocity and velocity-tools, in

%tomcat%/shared/lib


:

commons-beanutils.jar
commons-collections.jar
commons-digester.jar
commons-logging.jar
commons-validator.jar
servlet.jar
sslext.jar
velocity-dep-1.4.jar
velocity-tools-view-1.1.jar

My JDK is Sun's Java 2 SDK, SE v1.4.2_06

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

I very much look forward to using Velocity. As an aside, I

found it


confusing that velocity-1.4 ships with servlet examples but

a newbie


has no hope of running them "out of the box". For

starters, there's


no web.xml to tell Tomcat how to deal with *.vm files. Perhaps there's more that's missing ... I'm still quite ignorant of

velocity


internals/requirements. After reading the mailing list, I saw that velocity-tools contains everything needed for running example applications. Along with the good documentation on how to use Velocity, examples are really what's helpful to a newb teaching themselves a new thing. If the servlet examples in

velocity-1.4 don't


run as-is, why include them?

Thank you for Velocity, and thank you for your time.

- Ryan



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