Yes, I think that's a good way of framing it. (no pun intended).
So the stack becomes
Apache (optional)
-> Tomcat (app server)
--> web framework (or VelocityViewServlet)
-> Velocity
WILL
On 9/22/06, Brenton Strine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does this mean that a web framework actually *is*
necessary, but that if not supplied otherwise, velocity
uses it's own simple one?
Brenton
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Actually, Velocity provides the "VelocityViewServlet"
which is a ultra simple web framework (i.e. category 1).
You just drop the templates in your Tomcat web app and
you go.
Have you seen this article?
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/webapps.html
WILL
On 9/22/06, Peter Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't comment on Click as I've never used it, but I
must recommend
> staying away from Struts. I know I may start an
argument here as
> there are a lot of people who still live by them but
I've used Struts,
> and while they were great when they first came out and
there weren't
> alternatives, I have found them to be inferior to many
other newer MVC/MVC2 frameworks.
>
> You don't NEED anything from 1. To be honest, I
wouldn't bother with
> any other MVC framework until you learn velocity and
all it offers.
>
> All you need to do to get velocity based pages to
render your computer is:
>
> Install Tomcat and then Velocity. That's it.
>
> Once you are comfortable with the above and are writing
some simple
> velocity backed servlets, then do your OWN
investigation as to a
> supporting framework to help you. My suggestions to
look at are
> Spring MVC/Web flow, Tapestry, JSF, but remember these
aren't
> necessary, and in my opinion can add an unnecessary
layer unless the web app developed is going to be quite
large.
>
> Again this is a matter of opinion and others may argue
that you should
> never develop a web app without one of these helper
frameworks under
> the templating language, and I encourage you to explore
them for
> yourself after getting comfortable with a basic
velocity only webapp.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brenton Strine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:16 AM
> To: Velocity Users List
> Subject: RE: Beginner trying to install velocity to
apache server
>
> Wow, I really wasn't getting it! Thanks everyone. May I
ask a
> clarifacatory question?
>
> It seemed to me that all the stuff mentioned goes into
two categories:
>
> 1: click, struts
> 2: tomcat, jboss, websphere, resin, jetty
>
> And possibly 3: resin, apache.
>
>
> And my understanding is that to get velocity to render
on my pc, I
> need to install one thing from category 1, and one
thing from category 2. Correct?
>
> I'm going to want to install either the easiest or the
one with the
> most detailed install documentation available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenton
>
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