Title: RE: Codes for PICC in DR. OFFICE

Just to step back to the 797 question..

 

Chapter 797 is part of the United States Pharmacopeia.   That text is published by the United States Pharmacopeial Convention, an organization that holds deemed status with the FDA to create the rules that guide pharmaceutical manufacturers working under FDA regulation.  The Chapter addresses the standards of practice for compounded sterile products, which are products that are not manufactured by FDA regulated entities, usually meaning compounded by pharmacies, but also applying to sterile products compounded anywhere.

 

The FDA, and thus the USP, has no jurisdiction in the practice of health care that falls under state regulation, such as pharmacy, nursing, and physician practice.  For that reason, USP Chapter 797 is a standard of practice, but it is not a regulation unless the appropriate state authority adopts the Chapter into regulations.

 

As a standard of practice, is can be and is employed in lawsuits that originate through a breach is sterile drug preparation.

 

The JCAHO integrated the 797 standards into their standards, with July 2005 as the “surveyable” date except for facility remodeling, which has until 1/1/2008 to be completed.

 

Chapter 797 requires that all compounded sterile preparations be sterile at the time of administration.  The Chapter does not address sterile process once administration begins, considering that to be beyond its scope.

 

The Chapter sets timeframes for sterility of compounded products based on the risk of contamination for those products.  This is different that stability, which is driven by data from resources such as Trissel’s text.

 

For example, the Chapter says that for low risk compounding, like reconstituting a vial to create a single drug dose in a minibag, the product should be sterile for up to 14 days, as long as all the proper aseptic techniques have been followed.  It does not require filtration, but indicates that filtration is one method to determine sterility.  In fact, it says that if you filter your product and the product remains sterile for 30 days (documented), then you can use 30 days as your sterility dating.

 

 

marc

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Lynn Hadaway
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:58 AM
To: Rakay Dance
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Codes for PICC in DR. OFFICE

 

That is a dangerous situation indeed! Lynn

 

At 1:15 PM -0700 12/2/05, Rakay Dance wrote:

This would be great if the Doc even had nurses.  He works with self trained "medical assistants" who are hired to do what he says.  He is the only infection control doc in this side of the state.  He receives referrals from all other docs.   RaKay

 


From: Lynn Hadaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:48 PM
To: Rakay Dance; KayBeth Weibel, CRNI
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Codes for PICC in DR. OFFICE

 

You are correct that there is no oversight for rogue physicians doing things in their offices that are outside of national standards. The only real control is for nurses not to agree to work under these situations, but this means that the nurse must know of these standards. We can also educate patients and families about the credentials and accreditation to ensure safe practice. There also is a set of practice guidelines for outpatient parenteral anti-infective therapy from the Infectious Disease Society of America. Several years ago, Debbie Benvenuto represented INS and I represented AVA, then NAVAN, on the committee that updated these guidelines. There is a huge emphasis on a multidisciplinary approach. Just don't give in to the economic pressure and lower your standards. Lynn

 

At 5:19 PM -0700 12/1/05, Rakay Dance wrote:

This may sound like sour grapes but I don't understand why an infection control doc can mix antibiotics on his desk or send them home with patients to mix and an infusion pharmacy has such strict guidelines.  We really strive for excellence and are proud of our JCAHO status, but could be put out of business from doc's trying to boost there income.  They don't even have a pharmacist involved.  Also what can you do about an infection control doc that puts every patient on rocephin, invanz or cubicin because of the once a day infusion that is more convient for him.  What about resistant organisms in our community.  What can be done.  The doc laughs and says there are no 'pharmacy police'.   Rakay

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KayBeth Weibel, CRNI
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:36 AM
To: list serve
Subject: Re: Codes for PICC in DR. OFFICE

 

Hi Shirley,

 

Your hospital may be getting it's information from the 797 guidelines.  We are a home infusion pharmacy that follows the 797 guidelines and we do not need to filter our final products, unless it is TPN or the drug dictates that it be filtered.  We are not required to filter our antibiotics, because our clean room meets the 797 guidelines, and we only dispense one week of product at a time.  Mostly, we are dictated by a drug's stability in solution.

 

KayBeth Weibel, CRNI

Infusion Network

Falmouth, MA

----- Original Message -----

From: Lynn Hadaway

To: Venz, Shirley ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:19 AM

Subject: RE: Codes for PICC in DR. OFFICE

 

I am not aware of any evidence stating that drugs for XX amount fo days requires filtration. There are some meds that must be filtered for all doses and your pharmacy should know which ones these are. Lynn

 

At 3:30 PM -0600 11/29/05, Venz, Shirley wrote:

Can anyone tell me requirements for filtering IV antibiotics administered more than 5 days?  Our hospital has had that policy for years but I can't find evidence of why.

Thanks, Shirley

 

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