Another interesting NICHQ list serve posting for our pediatric people.
Have fun with this one!!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hammons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:58 PM
To: nichq-qi
Subject: [nichq-qi] Re: Medication Calculations or bust

Perhaps enlist the help of ISMP or the hospital pharmacists'
organization?
Terry

Terry Hammons MD
Sr Vice President, Research and Information Medical Group Management
Association
104 Inverness Terrace East
Englewood, CO 80112
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For all you 'intense people' out there.........remember when you were a
lowly Intern and/or Resident and had a sick patient who deteriorated
such that they needed a drug like dopamine.  The next fun part was
having to make the darn solution and that was no easy task but
immediately required everyone on rounds would take out their  old
calculator (or abacus depending upon your age) and start to calculate
the amount of drug to go into a diluent (based on a 'Rule of 6'
formulation) so that everyone knew how many ml's per hour it took to
deliver an amount of mcg/kg/min (funny how the amounts would always be
different depending upon which calculator one used....). Oh the joy!!!
But oh the errors!!!!

Well it is going to be a requirement soon (year greater than 2006) for
these same continuous drug infusions (i.e. dopamine, dobutamine,
fentanyl, etc...) being used in a Neonatal or Pediatric or Cardiac
Intensive Care Unit setting to be infusions that are no longer mixed
using a "Rule of 6"  but rather based upon a 'standard concentration'
(so that there will be no need to mix using calculations). Well, this
issue has been a bit controversial but is being implemented for a safer
medication administration process (we hope).

Now the problem is that no one has decided on what those 'standard
concentrations' should be, yep you guessed it - 'depending' upon what
organization you are at, that 'standard concentration' will be exactly
different from the next guy's!!!! Oh the joy!! 

So my question is this ---- why not make a National Standard Standard
Concentration for each drug that would be the Standard for each drug?
(the medication equivalent to having the Academic Committee for
Committees)
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Could we do that? Could each of you query your
intensivists/neonatologists/hospitalists/other-ists  to see what
'standard concentrations' they are using?  If they could send me what
they use I will gladly summarize the data (drug - standard concentration
- setting) and report it on this listserv for all to share?

I would appreciate it and it would be a great test on how we could all
sing kumbaya


Steve "will never get rid of my pocket protector" Lawless Nemours


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